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    Re: torrent spy owes 111million dollars!

    Quote Originally Posted by beanbandit View Post
    Time shifting is completely different to downloading TV shows. Unless you are downloading from the TV company then its almost always illegal. The TV companies have the copyright on the shows, up-to-date shows like heroes season two will be making that company money from distribution around the world. Go do a search for Heroes of any torrent link site and you will find lots of illegal torrents available.
    But it's no different if i download a TV show or record it on my TV PCI card.

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    Re: torrent spy owes 111million dollars!

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy3536 View Post
    But it's no different if i download a TV show or record it on my TV PCI card.
    Two very different things altogether.

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    Re: torrent spy owes 111million dollars!

    Quote Originally Posted by beanbandit View Post
    So they downloaded pirated software, created their own product, then sold it on. Making a profit of the back of dodgy software? How immoral can you get. Scum company tbh
    yup hench one of the reasons i left that shoddy place. underpaid and dodgy

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    Re: torrent spy owes 111million dollars!

    Quote Originally Posted by lodore View Post
    if people didnt pirate the software in the first place then it would be cheaper. they have to put the price up to cover the loss.
    That's rubbish tbh, long before torrents, P2P software and high bandwidth internet connections, the price of CDs and games was just as high as it is today (if not higher, thanks now to sites like Play.com). Back in 1992 Sonic The Hedgehog 2 for the Megadrive cost £30-£40, just like GTA4 does now.

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    Re: torrent spy owes 111million dollars!

    at the same time if you make a decent game dont you deserve the cash for creating the game?
    same for software.
    the fact that sonic the hedge 2 for mega drive is one of the best games ever created it was definatly worth the cash!

    i dont agree with the current prices of Microsoft office so i use openoffice. im a student so i could get microsoft office for £50 but i decided to use openoffice for now.
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    Re: torrent spy owes 111million dollars!

    Of course, I'm not having a go at prices today (as I already said, they're probably cheaper than they were 15 years ago which is amazing considering how much more technology and work goes into things). Hell I loved Sonic 2!

    I'm merely pointing out that "Piracy jacks up the prices for everyone" isn't a valid arguement.

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    Re: torrent spy owes 111million dollars!

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy3536 View Post
    But it's no different if i download a TV show or record it on my TV PCI card.
    Actually there are specific laws governing the recording of TV programmes, and they're quite different from those covering the illegal downloading of copyrighted materials.
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    Re: torrent spy owes 111million dollars!

    Quote Originally Posted by Salazaar View Post
    Actually there are specific laws governing the recording of TV programmes, and they're quite different from those covering the illegal downloading of copyrighted materials.
    But the end result is the same, i'll have it on my hard drive either way and without paying any money.

    So why if i've missed the chance to record a TV show would i not download it? Especially if i record 7 shows from an 8 show series, you expect to go without or pay £24.99 for the DVD boxset?

    With regards to the costs of media they have always been extreamly high, and you just need to look at film stars/music stars and presidents of these big companys like MS and EMI to realise the wages these people get arn't just high, they are obsene.
    And they expect people to pay massivly over the top for thier products, so they can buy thier 7th car.
    As i said before if everything was reasonably priced there wouldn't be a problem.
    It's all down to not getting a fair deal.

    Just think if you pay to watch a film at the cinema, then paid for it on video, then again with the changes of format to DVD and mabee now blueray, you could end up paying £50 for a 2 hour film you can't do that for every film you want to own. (i can't anyway, i'm poor)

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    Re: torrent spy owes 111million dollars!

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy3536 View Post
    But the end result is the same, i'll have it on my hard drive either way and without paying any money.

    So why if i've missed the chance to record a TV show would i not download it? Especially if i record 7 shows from an 8 show series, you expect to go without or pay £24.99 for the DVD boxset?

    With regards to the costs of media they have always been extreamly high, and you just need to look at film stars/music stars and presidents of these big companys like MS and EMI to realise the wages these people get arn't just high, they are obsene.
    And they expect people to pay massivly over the top for thier products, so they can buy thier 7th car.
    As i said before if everything was reasonably priced there wouldn't be a problem.
    It's all down to not getting a fair deal.

    Just think if you pay to watch a film at the cinema, then paid for it on video, then again with the changes of format to DVD and mabee now blueray, you could end up paying £50 for a 2 hour film you can't do that for every film you want to own. (i can't anyway, i'm poor)
    As long as you've got a TV license to watch those programs then it'd be okay in my opinion. If I miss the Apprentice, I got it on iPlayer, but if I miss that too I'll go download it as I don't really think I can view it again until they show it. Plus I prefer watching TV on my pc anyway, when I like.

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    Re: torrent spy owes 111million dollars!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bleak View Post
    I personally do like actually having the original CD. The Dad of a mate of mine must have a collection of 500-600 CDs all on shelves in their computer room and it's just an amazing sight.
    I totally agree. I much prefer to own something physical rather than a lower-quality MP3. It shows support for the artists you like and you get to enjoy the original sound in high quality. And there really is a difference between a 128-kbps MP3 and the original CD quality. Don't believe me, try it with one of your own CD's - compare the ripped and original versions. Not the same at all.

    Also what gives people the right to think they can download artist's music for free - after all they have put hard work into writing their 'art' - it's a rare talent to be able to write a song, and they should be rightly rewarded for their skills, not ripped off by cheap bastards who think they have a right to get everything for free.

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    Re: torrent spy owes 111million dollars!

    loo not many artists can right there songs especialy in the pop and rnb genra

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    Re: torrent spy owes 111million dollars!

    Quote Originally Posted by mooreslaw View Post
    I totally agree. I much prefer to own something physical rather than a lower-quality MP3. It shows support for the artists you like and you get to enjoy the original sound in high quality. And there really is a difference between a 128-kbps MP3 and the original CD quality. Don't believe me, try it with one of your own CD's - compare the ripped and original versions. Not the same at all.

    Also what gives people the right to think they can download artist's music for free - after all they have put hard work into writing their 'art' - it's a rare talent to be able to write a song, and they should be rightly rewarded for their skills, not ripped off by cheap bastards who think they have a right to get everything for free.
    How come it's perfectly ok for them to rip us off by charging massivly over the top prices for cds but not ok for us to rip them off.
    Radiohaed and charletons had it right, with radiohead you paid to DL the album what you thought it was worth (average was around £4 i belive) and with the charletons i think i'm right in thinking the next one will be up for legal download for nothing. Yet most still want £12.99 ?

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    Re: torrent spy owes 111million dollars!

    Quote Originally Posted by j.o.s.h.1408 View Post
    loo not many artists can right there songs especialy in the pop and rnb genra
    Fine don't buy or pirate their music if thats the case. Enless of course you like it, and the fact that the tallantless puppet needs all the people to do the work for them will only drive up the costs!
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    Re: torrent spy owes 111million dollars!

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy3536 View Post
    How come it's perfectly ok for them to rip us off by charging massivly over the top prices for cds but not ok for us to rip them off.
    Radiohaed and charletons had it right, with radiohead you paid to DL the album what you thought it was worth (average was around £4 i belive) and with the charletons i think i'm right in thinking the next one will be up for legal download for nothing. Yet most still want £12.99 ?
    Well I don't know where you're shopping mate - try Play and Amazon - chart CD's are never more than £8.95. I would say that is a reasonable price to pay for something you will get hours of enjoyment out of.

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    Re: torrent spy owes 111million dollars!

    Quote Originally Posted by mooreslaw View Post
    Well I don't know where you're shopping mate - try Play and Amazon - chart CD's are never more than £8.95. I would say that is a reasonable price to pay for something you will get hours of enjoyment out of.
    In most shops they are still being sold at £12.99, any music i want though i do buy from play.
    Another reason why the highstreets are stuggling.
    Can't wait for everything to hit the bargain buckets, unless you like Will Young. His stuf doesn't take long

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    Re: torrent spy owes 111million dollars!

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy3536 View Post
    How come it's perfectly ok for them to rip us off by charging massivly over the top prices for cds but not ok for us to rip them off.
    ? That is a really odd arguement.

    If you think someone is charging over the top prices then you're very free not to get that product. If it's obviously not value for money then no-one will buy it and they'll have to produce something that is worth the money next time or lower prices. If you pirate something you're saying that actually you DO think the product is worth your time to play, but you're too lazy to pay for it. Vote with your feet and just ignore products you don't think are worth the money.

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