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  • house prices drop by over 50% and inflation out of control

    4 6.56%
  • house prices drop by over 30-40% and inflation very high

    14 22.95%
  • house prices drop by over 20-30% and inflation high

    17 27.87%
  • much the same as mid 1990s, not too much to worry about

    18 29.51%
  • Things will remain stable.

    3 4.92%
  • Growth will continue, its all scaremongering.

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    Re: Britain 'Heading For Recession'

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    Yet everything you have posted in this thread indicates otherwise.
    Either that or you're hard working but not very bright.
    OK ive counted 3 posts in this thread where ive stated i have worked very hard, now you either accept that or you call me a liar. so accepting that i am a hard worker, maybe im not very bright then, but i graduated from uni, in Computing Visualisation in 2002 and thats good enough for me. so its not that im not a hard worker or thick. So im of at least average intelligence and a hard worker, so why am i not able to buy a house at the moment? The problem in your logic lies in your believe that that hard work = higher wages.

    So what your basicly saying is that if i were a hard worker i would be able to own a house without any need for a price drop in the housing market. Your also telling me that the harder you work in life the better off you will be.

    Well this is not the case, because in order for us to live the life we lead in this county there needs to be people in 3rdworld/developing countries that supply our food, clothing and fuel at very cheap rates. These people undoubtedly work harder than me and you for a lot less money. Then there is the hierarchy in this country, the longest hours, hardest labour and general hard work is carried out by the people on the lowest wages.

    The correlation between hard work and money that you put forward is simply not true, and if anything the complete opposite is true. Higher wages = less work.

    Now my best friend who ive known since i was 4 years old is now a millionaire, we went to the same infants, primary, comprehensive school and further education college. I went on to higher education and he got a job, hes still working for the same company, and he did work hard for the first few years and eventually became manager of the entire company. Now he does nothing all day but play golf, go to charity events send me messages on facebook, (which i mostly dont have time to read or reply as im working too hard). So we have both worked hard, the difference being that he wanted to earn ££££ more and be rich and i dont care about being rich i just want to be comfortable. Thats not to say that if i wanted to be rich i necessarily could and I dont begrudge my friend more money, i just wish the gap was a lot smaller.

    It is so easy for people with lots of money to make even more and the people who have more are usually the same people who want even more, thats why the gap is now so big between the rich and poor. I dont feel like i live in relative poverty i can afford my food, travel, social life, fuel and could own a house if people who did'nt need more of them would simply stop buying them, when all they buy them for is to make even more ££££ from the people who dont have much money. Its capitalism and i dont like it or want to be part of it.

    So please accept the FACT that its got nothing to do with hard work/intelligence as to why i cant afford a house. The reason is because i don't want to be part of the rat race. So for me to afford a house, one or more of the following needs to happen;


    houses have to drop in price
    have to join the rat race (which i dont want to)
    there is new legislation designed to stop people making money from BTL properties
    socialism in the UK

    seen as only 2 of the above points above are ever going to happen, i stand by my view that i really dont care how far the value of houses fall, and for me the further the better.

    So please badass stop saying its all down to the fact im lazy because i am 100% not lazy, im dyslexic though and for someone as severely dyslexic as me to write a post this long takes a lot of effort, probably more hard work in this post than my rich millionaire best friend has put in all week. (i hope he doesn't see this)
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    Re: Britain 'Heading For Recession'

    pay is based on supply and demand.

    if your doing a job that lots of people are willing to do, you get paid less.

    As such its often easy to make the normally correct assumption that the harder you work the more you get paid.

    of course there are some noteable examples to this assumption, as a country we're very short of physics teachers, but actually quite flush with english teachers. If you 'know' physics, its not really much harder to teach than english. But you will get more money for physics because theres a shortage, but there is still a cronic shortage because schools can't afford to pay as much as industry can for these people who are in such short suply.

    Then you get people like me, i'm about 30% below what i'd be on doing the role i am now, if i'd applied for it directly. Odds are i wouldn't of got through the first round of interviews, i don't have a 1st from oxbridge or any postgrad degrees. Also you get intresting age discrimination, i was seeing someone at work, she actually is in a considerably lower posistion, but has an extra 2 years experiance, despite been a noticeable less skilled employee, i was mortified to find out she's actually on a higher base than i am! So there is always some un-fair 'in effeciences' in these things.

    But thats not to say, if you feal your working hard enough to be earning more money, why don't you find a new job? If your not working hard enough in keeping yourself a model employee that everyone wants then your not going to earn average. There are plenty of employers who will stiff you, i wasted 18 months working for one!
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    Re: Britain 'Heading For Recession'

    Quote Originally Posted by j1979 View Post
    The reason is because i don't want to be part of the rat race. So for me to afford a house, one or more of the following needs to happen;


    houses have to drop in price
    have to join the rat race (which i dont want to)
    there is new legislation designed to stop people making money from BTL properties
    socialism in the UK

    So please badass stop saying its all down to the fact im lazy because i am 100% not lazy,
    Maybe not lazy in the conventional sense then.

    You are just one of those people that always chooses the easy option. You are working for Virgin in a call center for £13k yet you have a degree in Computing Visualisation.
    You have either chosen not to work "smart" or don't have the common sense to do so and now harbor a grudge against those that do better then you. I don't see why anyone should force down house prices so someone like you can afford them. In fact, on £13k, regardless of price drops, I doubt you'll ever be able to afford a house of your own because you don't deserve one.
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    Re: Britain 'Heading For Recession'

    Maybe you guys could continue argueing in PM and let everyone else get back to the topic
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    Re: Britain 'Heading For Recession'

    Quote Originally Posted by badass View Post
    Maybe not lazy in the conventional sense then.

    You are just one of those people that always chooses the easy option. You are working for Virgin in a call center for £13k yet you have a degree in Computing Visualisation.
    You have either chosen not to work "smart" or don't have the common sense to do so and now harbor a grudge against those that do better then you. I don't see why anyone should force down house prices so someone like you can afford them. In fact, on £13k, regardless of price drops, I doubt you'll ever be able to afford a house of your own because you don't deserve one.
    yep i chose te job i did for 1 reason over going into computing and that was that i enjoy the social side of work, i enjoy turning up to work and the fact that there is more than 1 female in the buliding.

    as for your "those that do better then you" speach, why do you think that because you earn more than me, you've done better than me? Trust me ive done some good things in my life, and helped others where ever i can, ive stuck my neck out for friends and been in the firing line when s### is about to hit the fan. People dont forget me and the things i do for them, and i have a wealth of good friends that would do the same for me. trust me im a richer man than you.

    so again back on topic please.

    this yahoo artical is what prompted me to strat the thread

    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/skynews/200...n-45dbed5.html

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    Re: Britain 'Heading For Recession'

    Quote Originally Posted by j1979 View Post
    Trust me ive done some good things in my life, and helped others where ever i can, ive stuck my neck out for friends and been in the firing line when s### is about to hit the fan. People dont forget me and the things i do for them, and i have a wealth of good friends that would do the same for me. trust me im a richer man than you.
    Once again, incorrectly making assumptions about me. I have made no comments about my earnings, nor have I made any about how much I help people. Every time you post on this thread you look more like an idiot to those reading it. I wonder if you can resist the temptation to make another assumption about me based on this latest post.
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    Re: Britain 'Heading For Recession'

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