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    Re: Russian tanks enter South Ossetia

    Quote Originally Posted by directhex View Post
    I'd want at least fourteen Estonias for that kind of risk
    They do have some of the most beautiful women in the world though.....

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    Re: Russian tanks enter South Ossetia

    ABOUT IMPARCIALITY IN WESTERN MEDIAS:


    LIST OF RUSSIAN JOURNALIST KILLED BY RUSSIAN SECURITY AGENTS:

    Ilyas Shurpayev, Dagestani journalist responsible for news coverage of Northern Caucasus on Channel One, was strangled with a belt in Moscow.[7]
    Gaji Abashilov, chief of Dagestan outlet of VGTRK, shot in his car

    [edit] 2007
    Konstantin Brovko, journalist of TV company "Gubernia" (Russian: "Губерния"), killed in Khabarovsk
    Ivan Safronov, Military columninst of newspaper "Kommersant". Died in Moscow on March 2 - cause of death disputed.[11]

    [edit] 2006
    Vadim Kuznetsov, editor-in-chief of journal "World and home. Saint Petersburg", killed in Saint Petersburg
    Vaghif Kochetkov, newspaper Trud (Labor), killed in Tula;
    Ilya Zimin, he worked for NTV Russia television channel, killed in Moscow by a gay acquaintance;
    Vyacheslav Akatov, special reporter, "Business Moscow" TV show, killed in Moscow Region;
    Anton Kretenchuk, cameraman, 38th TV Channel, killed in Rostov-on-Don;
    Yevgeny Gerasimenko, newspaper "Saratovsky Rasklad", Saratov;
    Vlad Kidanov, freelance journalist, Cheboksary;
    Alexander Petrov, editor-in-chief, "Right for Choice" magazine, killed near Omsk - in Altai Republic;
    Vyacheslav Plotnikov, reporter, 41st TV Channel, Voronezh;
    Anna Politkovskaya, observer, newspaper Novaya Gazeta, Moscow.[12][13][14][15]

    [edit] 2005
    Pavel Makeyev, reporter for TNT-Pulse Company, Rostov-on-Don;
    Magomedzaghid Varisov, Makhachkala;
    Alexander Pitersky, Baltika Radio reporter, Saint Petersburg;
    Vladimir Pashutin, newspaper Smolensky Literator, Smolensk;
    Tamirlan Kazikhanov, press service head, Anti-Terrorist Center of the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs's Main Department for the Southern Federal District, Nalchik;
    Kira Lezhneva, reporter, newspaper "Kamensky Worker", Sverdlovsk Region.[16]

    [edit] 2004
    Yefim Sukhanov, ATK-Media, Archangelsk;
    Farit Urazbayev, cameraman, Vladivostok TV/Radio Company, city of Vladivostok;
    Adlan Khassanov, Reuters reporter, killed in Grozny;
    Shangysh Mondush, correspondent for newspaper Khemchiktin Syldyzy, Tuva Republic;
    Paul Klebnikov, editor of Russian version of Forbes magazine, Moscow;
    Payl Peloyan, editor of Armyansky Pereulok magazine, Moscow;
    Zoya Ivanova, BGTRK broadcaster, Republic of Buryatia;
    Vladimir Pritchin, editor-in-chief of North Baikal TV/Radio Company, Republic of Buryatia;
    Ian Travinsky, Saint Petersburg, killed in Irkutsk;[17]

    [edit] 2003
    Aleksei Sidorov, Tolyatinskoye Obozreniye, October 9, 2003, Togliatti. He was the second editor-in-chief of local newspaper, "Tolyatinskoye Obozreniye" to be shot to death. His predecessor, Valery Ivanov, was shot in April 2002. The newspaper was known for reporting on organized crime and corruption in the industrial city of Togliatti. [8]
    Yuri Shchekochikhin, Novaya Gazeta, July 3, 2003, Moscow. Deputy editor of the Novaya Gazeta, he died just a few days before his scheduled trip to USA to discuss the results of his journalist investigation with FBI officials. He investigated "Three Whales Corruption Scandal" that involved high-ranking FSB officials. Shchekochikhin died from an "acute allergic reaction" to a substance that was presumably identified as thallium. [9]
    Dmitry Shvets, TV-21 Northwestern Broadcasting, April 18, 2003, Murmansk. He was deputy director of the independent television station TV-21 Northwestern Broadcasting. He was shot dead outside his station offices. Shvets' colleagues said their station had received multiple threats for its reporting on influential local politicians. [10]

    [edit] 2002
    Natalia Skryl, the Nashe Vremya newspaper, Taganrog town;
    Konstantin Pogodin, the Novoye Delo newspaper, Nizhni Novgorod city;
    Valeri Batuev, Moscow News newspaper, Moscow;
    Sergei Kalinovski, the Moskovskiy Komsomolets, Smolensk;
    Vitali Sakhn-Val'da, photojournalist, Kursk town;
    Leonid Shevchenko, the Pervoye Chteniye newspaper, Volgograd;
    Valeri Ivanov, the chief editor for the Tol'yattinskoye Obozrenie newspaper, the Samara region;
    Sergei Zhabin,the press service of the governor of the Moscow region;
    Nikolai Vasiliev, Cheboksary city, Chuvashia;
    Leonid Kuznetsov, the Mescherskaya Nov' newspaper, the Ryazan region;
    Paavo Voutilainen, a former main editor of the Kareliya magazine, Kareliya;
    Roddy Scott, the Frontline-TV TV Company, from Great Britain.
    Alexandr Plotnikov, the Gostiny Dvor newspaper, Tyumen city;
    Oleg Sedinko, the founder of the Novaya Volna TV and Radio Company, Vladivostok city;
    Nikolai Razmolodin, the general director of the Europroject TV and Radio Company, Ulyanovsk town;
    Igor Salikov, the chief of the Department of information safety of the Moskovskiy Komsomolets newspaper in Penza;
    Leonid Plotnikov, the publishing house "Periodicals of the Mari-El", Yoshkar-Ola.[18]

    [edit] 2001
    Eduard Markevich, 29, editor and publisher of local newspaper Novy Reft in Sverdlovsk Region, was found dead (shot in the back) on September 18. He often criticized local officials and had received threatening telephone phone calls prior to the murder. [11] [19]

    [edit] 2000
    Vladimir Yatsina, February 20, 2000. A correspondent for ITAR-TASS, he was kidnapped and later killed by a group of Wahhabis in Chechnya [20]
    Aleksandr Yefremov, May 12, 2000, Chechnya. A photojournalist of the western Siberian newspaper Nashe Vremya was killed in Chechnya when rebels blew up a military jeep in which he was riding. On previous assignments, Yefremov had won acclaim for his news photographs from the war-torn region. [12]
    Igor Domnikov, from Novaya Gazeta, July 16, 2000, Moscow. Unknown assassin hit him repeatedly on the head with a hammer in the entryway of his apartment building in Moscow. The killer was never found. It is believed that the assailant mistook Domnikov for a Novaya Gazeta reporter Oleg Sultanov who received threats from the FSB for his reporting on corruption in the Russian oil industry.[13]
    Sergey Novikov, Radio Vesna, July 26, 2000, Smolensk. He was shot and killed in the stairwell of his apartment building. He often criticized the government of Smolensk Region. [14]
    Iskandar Khatloni, Radio Free Europe, September 21, 2000, Moscow. He was killed at night with axe in his Moscow apartment by an unknown assailant. The motif of the murder is unknown, but Khatloni work on stories about the human-rights abuses in Chechnya.[21]
    Sergey Ivanov, Lada-TV, October 3, 2000, Togliatti. He was shot five times in the head and chest in front of his apartment building. He was director of Lada-TV, the largest independent television company in Togliatti, which was an important player on the local political scene. [15].
    Adam Tepsurgayev, Reuters, November 21, 2000, Chechnya. A Chechen cameraman, he was shot at a neighbor's house in the village of Alkhan-Kala. He produced most of Reuters' footage from Chechnya in 2000, including shots of Chechen rebel Shamil Basayev having his foot amputated. [16].

    [edit] Journalists who reported on the conflict in Chechnya
    Cynthia Elbaum. On assignment for Time magazine, Cynthia was photographing in the streets of Grozny, when she was killed in a Russian bombing raid in 1994.[22]
    Vladimir Zhitarenko, a veteran military correspondent for the Russian armed forces daily Krasnaya Zvezda (Red Star), was hit by two sniper bullets outside the town of Tolstoy-Yurt, near the Chechen capital of Grozny on December 31, 1994.
    Nina Yefimova, a reporter for local newspaper "Revival" was abducted from her apartment and killed together with her mother. Journalists in Grozny and Moscow believe that her murder was related to stories she had published on crime in Chechnya.
    Jochen Piest. On January 10, 1995, Piest was killed in a suicide attack by a Chechen rebel against a Russian mine-clearing unit in the village of Chervlyonna, about 24 kilometers northeast of the Chechen capital, Grozny. The rebel was firing his submachine gun as he drove a small diesel locomotive at high speed toward a Russian troop train parked on the track. Piest was fatally hit by three bullets. Rossiskaya Gazeta correspondent Vladimir Sorokin was wounded in the attack. The gunman died when the locomotive collided with the military train.
    Farkhad Kerimov. Farkhad Kerimov was murdered on May 22nd 1995 while filming for Associated Press on the rebel side of Chechnya. No motive has ever been established for the killing.
    Natalya Alyakina. Natalya Alyakina, a free-lance correspondent for German news outlets, was shot dead in June by a soldier after clearing a Russian checkpoint near the southern Russian city of Budyonnovsk.
    Shamkhan Kagirov. Kagirov, a reporter for the Moscow daily newspaper Rossiyskaya Gazeta and the local paper Vozrozheniye, was shot and killed in an ambush in Chechnya. Kagirov and three local police officers were traveling in a car near Grozny when they were attacked. The three officers were also killed.
    Viktor Pimenov. In March 11, 1996, he was fatally shot in the back by a sniper positioned on the roof of a 16-story building in Grozny, the Chechen capital. Pimenov had been filming the devastation caused by the March 6-9 rebel raid on the city.
    Nadezhda Chaikova. On March 20, 1996, Chaikova disappeared while on assignment. Her body was found buried in the Chechen village of Geikhi on April 11, blindfolded and bearing signs of beatings. The cause of death was a gunshot wound to the back of the head.
    Supian Ependiyev. On the evening of October 27, 1999, several short-range ballistic missile hit a crowded outdoor market in central Grozny, killing or wounding hundreds of people. About an hour after the attack, Ependiyev went to the scene to cover the carnage for his paper. As he was leaving the site, a new round of rockets fell about 200 meters from the bazaar. Ependiyev suffered severe shrapnel wounds and died in a Grozny hospital the next morning. According to other sources, he died two days later.
    Ramzan Mezhidov. The journalists were covering a refugee convoy en route, along the Baku-Rostov highway, from Grozny to Nazran in neighboring Ingushetia. As the convoy approached the Chechen town of Shaami Yurt, a Russian fighter bomber fired several rockets from the air, hitting a busload of refugees. Despite warnings from colleagues traveling with them, Mezhidov and Gigayev left their vehicle to film the carnage. As they approached the bus, another Russian rocket hit a nearby truck, fatally wounding both journalists.
    Vladimir Yatsina, a correspondent for ITAR-TASS was kidnapped and killed by a group of Wahhabis in Chechnya on July 19, 1999. [23][24]
    Aleksandr Yefremov. A photojournalist of the western Siberian newspaper Nashe Vremya was killed in Chechnya when rebels blew up a military jeep in which he was riding. On previous assignments, Yefremov had won acclaim for his news photographs from the war-torn region.
    Roddy Scott. On September 26, 2002, Scott was killed in the Russian republic of Ingushetia. Russian soldiers found his body in Ingushetia's Galashki region, near the border with Chechnya, following a bloody battle between Russian forces and a group of Chechen fighters.
    Magomedzagid Varisov, a political scientist and journalist, was shot to death near his home in Makhachkala. He "had received threats, was being followed and had unsuccessfully sought help from the local police" according to Committee to Protect Journalists. Sharia Jamaat claimed responsibility for the murder.

    LIST OF WESTERN JOURNALIST KILLED BY WESTERN OFFICIALS:


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    Re: Russian tanks enter South Ossetia

    Ergo, european journalist don't risk their lives when they do their job nor have to go to exile in western countries like many russian journalists have to do.

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    Re: Russian tanks enter South Ossetia

    you never heard about the british academic who " committed suicide " after the exaggerated WMD reports pre gulf War 2 ?


    I'm sure we're just as guilty for it , but we are probably a lot more subtle.
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    Re: Russian tanks enter South Ossetia

    Quote Originally Posted by Andy3536 View Post
    Your starting to sound like a scycotic dictator now, Russia will never attack a nato country or ever use Nuclear weapons.
    So all your words are all just words, they mean nothing.
    I do not call to attack Estonia. We shall admit theoretically such event has occured and it is unimportant for what reasons. Here two variants.
    The first variant: Russia annexs Estonia and NATO does nothing.
    The second variant: All the countries of NATO begin to protect Estonia and will occur atomic the Armageddon.

    We make a choice.

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    Re: Lets raise international brigades against Russia:

    Quote Originally Posted by pablobotin View Post
    I INVITE ALL THOSE WHO FEEL READY TO COME WITH ME AND CREATE INTERNATIONAL BRIGADES IN GEORGIA HELPING GEORGIAN CITIZENS AND SHOWING THEM THAT MOST OF THE WOLRD PEOPLES ARE SUPPORTING THEM IN THESE DIFFICULT MOMENTS.

    We are already 6 brigadists.
    I'm intrigued, what would you do when you got there?


    Bit of tangent but when I saw the headlines on Friday saying Russia had invaded Georgia I just had a Red Dawnish vision of some Americans tramping towards Atlanta getting ready to eviscerate the red menace
    Last edited by Mazen; 12-08-2008 at 03:31 PM. Reason: Tangent

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    Re: Russian tanks enter South Ossetia

    Quote Originally Posted by gold2008 View Post
    I do not call to attack Estonia. We shall admit theoretically such event has occured and it is unimportant for what reasons. Here two variants.
    The first variant: Russia annexs Estonia and NATO does nothing.
    The second variant: All the countries of NATO begin to protect Estonia and will occur atomic the Armageddon.

    We make a choice.
    Yes, and its because of the possibility of the second variant that Russia can not go steaming into Estonia. Do you see?

    You seem to think that the rest of the world is powerless because Russia has nukes, but Russia, for some reason, have no fear of the rest of the worlds nukes, and can act as they please.

    The threat of nuclear warfare keeps Russian aggression in check just as much as it keeps American and British aggression in check.

    Russia can no more send troops into Estonia or any other NATO nation, than the USA or Britain can send troops into Kursk.

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    Re: Russian tanks enter South Ossetia

    Quote Originally Posted by gold2008 View Post
    I do not call to attack Estonia. We shall admit theoretically such event has occured and it is unimportant for what reasons. Here two variants.
    The first variant: Russia annexs Estonia and NATO does nothing.
    The second variant: All the countries of NATO begin to protect Estonia and will occur atomic the Armageddon.

    We make a choice.
    Why Russia will attack Estonia ?
    More logic to suppose, that USA will attack Belorussia and Russia will protect it ! Or USA will attack North Korea, and China will protect Korea . All history of last 20 years compel to suppose, that new war also will begin USA !!!

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    Re: Russian tanks enter South Ossetia

    Quote Originally Posted by samcross View Post
    Yes ! Sukashvili have got on an impudent lying muzzle !!! (Suka from russian - female of dog)

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    Re: Russian tanks enter South Ossetia

    As I have understood to Europeans it is a pity Georgians when they were attacked with Russian. And that Georgians have killed that 2000 southern Osset, it is Europeans does not disturb. I ask, whether Russia has correctly made that has attacked Georgia and has rescueed other southern the Osset.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gold2008 View Post
    as i have understood to europeans it is a pity georgians when they were attacked with russian. And that georgians have killed that 2000 southern osset, it is europeans does not disturb. I ask, whether russia has correctly made that has attacked georgia and has rescueed other southern the osset.
    Заткнулись !

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    Re: Russian tanks enter South Ossetia

    Quote Originally Posted by igorsmirnov View Post
    Заткнулись !
    Посмотрим, ещё не вечер.

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    Re: Russian tanks enter South Ossetia

    This is one of the most bizarre threads on HEXUS.

    I think it's run its course.

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