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    The government has outlined how a controversial online ad system can be rolled out in the UK.

    In response to EU questions about its legality, it said that it was happy Phorm conformed to EU data laws.(My arse!)
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7619297.stm
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    Re: Phorm rears its ugly head again

    I feel a many brown envelopes traded hands somewhere....



    Phorm is evil.

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    Re: Phorm rears its ugly head again

    But any future deployments of the system must be done with consent and make it easy for people to opt out.
    So what's the problem, just opt out if you don't like it.

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    Re: Phorm rears its ugly head again

    Because it should be opt-in for starters.
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    Re: Phorm rears its ugly head again

    Wait, how can this be legal? you have someone watching your online moves and best of all its a person who used spyware to his advantage, good joke. Why do ISP need this? they dont, they just need to increase their prices or accept that they need to sort them selves out instead of selling as much as they can. Im with virgin atm and im glad they havent decided yet, how can they say it doesnt get website information? if the adds are going to be targeted by what you visit then how the hell can they do it without knowing the website in the first place. The whole system just sounds like an annoying pop-up program designed to annoy people but its going on a huge scale approved by the government.

    This country has gone mad, is phorm out in america and stuff?. Guess ill have to get my pop-up blocket ready and ask royal mail to store all post at their depo to stop me filling my recycling bin with spam.
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    Re: Phorm rears its ugly head again

    Beaten by Steve,

    although by this
    'But any future deployments of the system must be done with consent and make it easy for people to opt out.'
    Im assuming its gonna be in some small print that you give consent unless you say otherwise, hoping the masses simply wont read the T+C's and just sign away?

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    Re: Phorm rears its ugly head again

    As long as there is a list of isp's using phorm published (loudly) and be informed who to avoid..

    Isn't already illegal under European law?
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    Re: Phorm rears its ugly head again

    No, seriously, are you really going to put up with this crap?

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    Re: Phorm rears its ugly head again

    Quote Originally Posted by santa claus View Post
    No, seriously, are you really going to put up with this crap?
    i think there was a poll on skyuser forums that basically said if sky started using phorm then 70% or so of it's user base would leave them instantly...
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    Re: Phorm rears its ugly head again

    Quote Originally Posted by TAKTAK View Post
    i think there was a poll on skyuser forums that basically said if sky started using phorm then 70% or so of it's user base would leave them instantly...
    Stopping it before it starts might be better, before we run out of options. A migration may just perpetuate things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by santa claus View Post
    Stopping it before it starts might be better, before we run out of options. A migration may just perpetuate things.
    yeah but how many sigs did the initial petition have?...
    and that was just ignored...
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    Re: Phorm rears its ugly head again

    Quote Originally Posted by TAKTAK View Post
    i think there was a poll on skyuser forums that basically said if sky started using phorm then 70% or so of it's user base would leave them instantly...
    i hope it would be about the same with Be*. or any isp that doesn't have the userbase of tiscali, talktalk, orange etc
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicks12 View Post
    Im with virgin atm and im glad they havent decided yet..
    Any company that forcibly throttles the users which use it's products the most (most ridiculous fuzzy logic ever i feel - "oh lets cut the bandwidth of the people who're using it so that the people who aren't going to use it get more than they need!") is on it's arse by my grounds anyway.

    It's all very well saying you'll leave if Phorm takes hold, but in practice a lot of those people will grudgingly stay - and at the end of the day it's a fraction of Sky's userbase. Sadly, it's unlikely to make much of a difference - the information needs to be made much more publicly available rather than a few geeks (sorry, but that's all we are at the moment) on the internet.

    Switch to talktalk? Isn't the guy there dead set against it all?

    This story needs to be elevated on the beeb at least - it's not even on their RSS feed Or on the top read as far as i can see!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadduckUK View Post
    i hope it would be about the same with Be*. or any isp that doesn't have the userbase of tiscali, talktalk, orange etc
    IIRC Be* (O2), and ADSL24 were one of the first to reject the idea, with sky sitting on the fence and a few others just jumping in...
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    Quote Originally Posted by TAKTAK View Post
    yeah but how many sigs did the initial petition have?...
    and that was just ignored...
    True. The petition made the top 5 too so it's two fingers up to thousands of people. Looks to me like the Gov want out esp with this financial crisis. The going is rough and it's about to get rougher.

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    Re: Phorm rears its ugly head again

    Quote Originally Posted by TAKTAK View Post
    IIRC Be* (O2), and ADSL24 were one of the first to reject the idea, with sky sitting on the fence and a few others just jumping in...
    think so, id go wherever i needed to though, even if its back to adslmax
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