Toilets -the next target of political correctness

[Agent]

Thanks to Stew for sending me this on MSN....

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/m...er/7643175.stm

Bit speechless....

[mallett]

I'm really struggling to find the words to describe how unbelievable I think this is...

[jackvdbuk]

so there going to alienate what 99% of the university and make the 1% that are trans happy?

what is going on there!

[Rave]

Seems fair enough to me. I've never thought it was fair that I have to share toilets with a bunch of knuckledraggers who can't aim a stream of urine down a toilet without getting half of it on the seat and floor just because I'm male. Now everyone will have to suffer the same.

[TeePee]

There should be three toilets: 'Mens', 'Womens' and 'Freaks'.

[iranu]

I saw this earlier today and just laughed. I've now resigned myself to the fact that PC/over sensitivity/grovelling hand-wringing anxious pleasing of everyone - is now sacrosanct in "modern Blairist Britian".

It just means that any stoodent can walk/wheel/hop/crawl/slither (in the case of the lawyeresque right-on mob that has proposed this) into any toilet and take a wizz without the notion of being aware of who is supposed to wizz where. Therefore, there are no rights and wrongs when it comes to needing a pee whether pissed up or not. Maybe it's not a bad thing ala "Starship Troopers" communal showers, but lets face it that's not going to happen. I'm sure the individuals that this was aimed at weren't contacted for their views.

I once worked with a trans-gendered/transvestite/transexual human being a decade ago and there is a cracking story I should pass on cos it makes me laugh everytime I think of it. I don't think the company had special loos or not and none of the women objected as far as I'm aware. We treated her as a she and that was that.

Anyway - I'm aware of 3 or 4 transexuals/transgenders (all men) in my current workplace (@4000 peeps) and it's quite sad to see one of them who is a bloke with a 5 o'clock shadow at ten in the morning queueing up at 12.30 in the canteen in the most shockingly bad blouse and skirt suit, stocking clad legs, false hair/wig, full lipstick looking like a Monty Python/Little Britain bloke in drag. God only knows how someone can have the courage to do that day in day out.

I think that the ones at work use the disabled toilets which are male and female anyway.

[kopite]

So if I put a dress on I can go in the Womans toilets? sweet

[coco]

So if I put a dress on I can go in the Womans toilets? sweet

funny i was thinking the same

[kopite]

Taking my idea before a bit further though.

its a student union right? Well From my time at Uni I seem to remember the rugby Teams had a fetish for dressing in womans clothes on nights out. Thinking it through they are dressing as woman at the time albeit for a laugh(although ya do wonder with some of them) What toilets would they go into?

[Clunk]

It's the Pygmies I feel sorry for. Not so much as a box to stand on at the urinals.

Manchester University are taking the piss.

[2Cold Scorpio]

I wonder where its written that every small special-interest group must always be pleased...usually at the expense of the majority.

Maybe the trans folks should have thought things liek this through before they opted for their optional operation. This isn't like having special handicapped stalls; those folks couldn't help their condition. The trans group *chose* to do what they did; why should they get special consideration? ^_^

[Stringent]

What the heck is next? I don't know what to say either.

[Lucio]

Ignoring the uninformed masses who seem to think that your gender is something you can choose (you can't, the vast majority of true transgendered individuals actually have male bodies with female shaped brains inside)


The main problem with the issue is that a small minority is dictating conditions to the majority, whilst ignoring a less inflamatory solution. When I was at university, the transgendered woman (pre-op), was simply asked to use the disabled toilets as they were designated unisex.

Personally though, I always wondered why you have male and female toilets? Why not just get rid of urinals completely and just have unisex toilets. Then it doesn't really matter who comes in, you're still inside your own cubicle where no one can see.

[kopite]

Because urinals are fun
urinal cakes make fun targets.

[BlackDwarf]

Just go into the disabled toilets. Hardly anyone uses them, they're always a lot cleaner, and, if you're pissed, you've got some snazzy rails you can hold onto if you feel yourself going horizontal.

Either that, or have another set of loo's: Male, Female, Tranny.

[Betty_Swallocks]

Ignoring the uninformed masses who seem to think that your gender is something you can choose (you can't, the vast majority of true transgendered individuals actually have male bodies with female shaped brains inside)

What a ridiculous statement. What shape is a female brain and how does it differ from a male brain?

You're right in part though. You can't change your gender. If you're born a man you are a man and no amount of hormone injections and surgery can change that.


How they feel inside is of no interest to me.
If they want to put on a dress and be called Loretta at weekends that's totally fine by me, but if they CHOOSE to have an operation to alter their appearance they should live with the consequences and the inconveniences that brings.

Why should the rest of us have to make allowances for the fact that poor sensitive Steve from Sheffield now has the outward appearance of a woman. If I was female I would be most unhappy about the idea of a man pretending to be a woman and sharing a toilet with me.

Oh, and while I'm having a rant, why is it called a "sex change" operation? All it is is cosmetic surgery. It's no more possible to change a man into a woman than it would be to change a dog into a cat. All you have at the end of a procedure is a man who looks like a woman or vice versa.