I really hope this isn't how most people in america think...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zRqcfqiXCX0

I don't know if I live in a more open minded part of the country, but I can't image this kind of anti-trust and general hate spreading over here. It could make for a really unbalanced election if a lot of these racist, mis-informed muslim hating people turn out to vote. I don't think that most people in America think along the same lines, but my worry is if a lot of them do.

It's pretty scary if you think about it.

"I'm afraid if he wins, the blacks will take over"

Shocking tbh.

As far as I know, Obama is ahead in the polls, but I'm sure that could all change :eek:.

I'm both amused and appalled in equal measure. Thank god these people are in the minority.

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Thank god these people are in the minority.

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well you say that.... but there is a lot of middle in middle America, so im not sure :(

the inbreds are going to screw everything up aren\'t they?

Thats both funny and very scary all in one. :juggle:

It\'s almost feels like a spoof documentry:confused:

*facepalm*

i wish that was made up...

i actually want Obama to win because he looks alot less shifty.... :D


although i am surprised that the wikipedia pages havn\'t had to be locked... yet... doesn\'t look far off though... with Obamas page being edited with pictures of devils :crazy:

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As far as I know, Obama is ahead in the polls, but I'm sure that could all change :eek:.

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Shocking,

When times comes to vote, I don't know if many Americans (especially those in the middle/south) can force themselves to vote for a 'black man' or even consider it. It was only 50 odd years ago that they were treating them like slaves.

I still expect Obama to win, but only just and much less then what the opinion polls are suggesting.

I saw a vid the other day of a Republican rally, where the supporters were shouting, "kill Barack" and hurling abuse at a black cameraman.

Sadly, that doesn't even shock me anymore, what did shock me and really annoyed me (I'd love to use a stronger word but this is a family forum) was Palin's reaction, she just smiled and carried on.

Not to mention after dragging him over the coals for a month with Rev. Wright fiasco people would have figured he's not Muslim. :rolleyes:

http://punditkitchen.files.wordpress...is-senator.jpg

The reasons folks here in the states don't care for Obama has nothing to do with race (speaking of which, the percentage of blackness isn't enough for him to qualify as black).

Its a trust issue...he is an empty suit, all talk, no substance. Very scary dude.

And one other closely kept secret :secret:

Oh, and of course, he thinks he is a god.

:eek:

Obama Messiah

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Oh, and of course, he thinks he is a god.

:eek:

Obama Messiah

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anti-christ?

/me ducks and runs for cover... :p

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The reasons folks here in the states don't care for Obama has nothing to do with race

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:rolleyes: no of course it doesn't, when people say "he's an n.." in interviews its actually code for "i don't agree with his policies" isn't it?

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:rolleyes: no of course it doesn't, when people say "he's an n.." in interviews its actually code for "i don't agree with his policies" isn't it?

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So if thats the case what do they mean by "He's a terrorist" and "He's a muslim" or mabee "He's not a christian"

I'm just not clever enough to understand this myself. Someone needs to crack the code:O_o1:

As long as the next president makes sure those in the vid arn't aloud passports they'll do a good job in my book :)

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As long as the next president makes sure those in the vid arn't aloud passports they'll do a good job in my book :)

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a passport? there is only oil, terrorists, and commies outside of the US, why would they want to go there?

Best thing is they say he hates white people... yet picked a white co runner for one.

Two his mom is white from hawaii so.....

to be honest i still hold up the opinion Americans are the stupidest race in the world and are just the same as Islamic Terrorists except they can get away with it... funny world we live in.

The saying one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter is quite effective here... i believe Iraq hasn't invaded America yet... but America has invaded Iraq... so we all verbally attack Iraq!

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a passport? there is only oil, terrorists, and commies outside of the US, why would they want to go there?

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well most Americans believe we aren't to be trusted :P... were probably secret Communists and of course IRA are terrorists so were obviously terrorist too :P.

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and of course IRA are terrorists so were obviously terrorist too :P.

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1563119.stm

oh they have no problems with the IRA, they are after all freedom fighters :rolleyes:

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1563119.stm

oh they have no problems with the IRA, they are after all freedom fighters :rolleyes:

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:O what what what lol... i dont see how that works...

btw watch this everyone http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=7f4JLQ...eature=related

"http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=jMyNk8J1c8g" ok john cleese has spoken nomore palin :P

Oh the irony of it they are being interviewed by a Muslim news station and dont realise it

Absolutely spot on MadduckUK, its all gravy until it happens to the americans... *cough* Pearl *cough* Harbour *cough*

To be fair i was in america over the summer and i asked people how they felt and they said that hey wanted obama to win but if he dos they are sure he will be assassinated.

Hmm. An Al Jazeera news report. So that's not biased then.

I wonder if those were the only people they interviewed there or whether they just picked half a dozen idiots. The impression they give is that the whole rally was made up of people like that.

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The impression they give is that the whole rally was made up of people like that.

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its certainly the view of communities rather than just the view of a few individuals, certainly in key republican areas.

did anyone see on the news the clip with the old woman telling McCain that Obama was a terrorist at one of the rallys, and McCain having to tell her he wasnt? that's the kind of people that are out there

not suprised by this, there are some very brainwashed people in this world, america is certainly NO exception to this

Proof, if need be, that religion is the worst damn thing to ever have happened to mankind.

Look at the proof:

We ship all our criminals to Australia and what do we get back in return? Big prawns, great surfing and fit chicks with relaxed sexual attitudes working in bars all over the UK.

We ship all our religious zealots to America and what do we get? Tobacco, friendly fire and obese ignoramuses waddling around London telling everyone how great their home town is.

Still, we've only got ourselves to blame... should've given the buggers representation when they asked for it.

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Still, we've only got ourselves to blame... should've given the buggers representation when they asked for it.

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:mrgreen:

Maybe if y'all hadn't lined up in prissy red suits, like so many moving targets, you would have been able to keep your colonies.

:angst:

:)

TTFN

im really shocked tbh.
why did one of the people bring up 911? no one will know what happerns but the american goverment are capable of doing it and covering it up.

i was hoping racism would stop but not im america...

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i was hoping racism would stop but not im america...

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What's this? The Pot calling the Kettle BLACK?

:rules:

http://www.google.com/search?q=racis...ient=firefox-a

http://www.history.ac.uk/ihr/Focus/S.../sherwood.html

Just for the record, it was a man of God who pushed and pushed to abolish British slave trade.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granville_Sharp

Sorry - I must be missing something, but I'm not sure how those links are relevant. I don't remember anyone mentioning that it wasn't a religious person who pushed to abolish the slave trade. Equally, I'm sure there were many more who supported it. Since almost 100% of the population at the time were religious, I don't see how this tells us anything.

Also, (and this is purely subjective) but I don't think that people over here would be quite so violent and hated against a leader who is non-white. We'll never know for sure until this happens of course...

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Sorry - I must be missing something, but I'm not sure how those links are relevant. I don't remember anyone mentioning that it wasn't a religious person who pushed to abolish the slave trade. Equally, I'm sure there were many more who supported it. Since almost 100% of the population at the time were religious, I don't see how this tells us anything.

Also, (and this is purely subjective) but I don't think that people over here would be quite so violent and hated against a leader who is non-white. We'll never know for sure until this happens of course...

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I agree. You must be missing something. Seems to me there is an ocean between you and the folks you blithely brand racist, based on what first-hand experience with multitudes of American people?

Somewhere up the thread was a smarta$$ remark about 'religious' people.

There you have the relevance, along with a history of your own folk...my ancestors and relatives, btw, yet, y'all sit smugly typing anti-American smears regarding things you truly know nothing about.

Is there a degree of racism in the states, still? Sure. Is there any where you are? I'm thinking so. Is blind attack of the people of any country simply because they reside in said country a form of racism? You bet! :)

Have a nice day. :cool:

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I agree. You must be missing something. Seems to me there is an ocean between you and the folks you blithely brand racist, based on what first-hand experience with multitudes of American people?

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theres big fly-ey things and swimmy-floaty things that take you across that there ocean ;)

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theres big fly-ey things and swimmy-floaty things that take you across that there ocean ;)

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Nah. You'd fall of the edge of the world before you got here. :surprised:

you should be pleased about the ocean christiansoldie (sic), here be dragons!

I think you're mis-understanding. I didn't say that Americans were racist, and I never meant to infer it. What I did say was that some are very racist (see the video for an example). I also didn't say that people in the UK are never racist, but I also don't believe that people over here will actually hate someone to the extent that was shown in the video due to their race in as many numbers.

I'm aware that the people shown in the video may not be representative of America. Is may not even be representative of middle America - I don't know. I was just saying that I hope that's not the case. As a whole, I like America, but I simply don't agree with some of the stronger views that some people have over there.

You inferred that it was someone in this thread that first mentioned something about religion, but it was in fact first mentioned in the video.

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He's not a Christian. This is a Christian nation. What is our country going to end up like?

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Hinting that only a Christian should be allowed to be president. Why should religion even come into it?

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And I believe Palin - she's filled with the holy spirit

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Is that a good reason to vote for someone? Not because of their views on important issues, but because she seems more in touch with god.

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Just the whole Muslim thing and everything. I mean he ...I mean a lot of people forgot about 9/11 but it's still kind of... I don't know - a little unnerving

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Hints that Obama is a Muslim (untrue as far as I know, but it shouldn't matter anyway), and that he (as a Muslim) may have had something to do with 9/11.

The guy in the video supporting Obama in the (I assume) McCain dominated town has been called a Muslim (as if it's offensive). See point above.

I'm sure you can see how all of those quotes can raise the statement "I really hope this isn't how most people in America thing".

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Is there a degree of racism in the states, still? Sure. Is there any where you are? I'm thinking so. Is blind attack of the people of any country simply because they reside in said country a form of racism? You bet!

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I'm not saying that England has never been racist, or even that it isn't today. I just don't see that degree of racism happening over here. Maybe I don't live in the right part of the country to see it?

hmmm... no black or minority leadership in UK to hate... :undecided which came first, the cause or the effect??? :undecided

:surrender:

It's been fun, cousins. Drop by with some kippered something-or-other if you get stateside.

:woowoo:

Don't fall into the trap of assuming that the majority of Americans are ignorant rednecks. That's an Al Jazeera news report; I'm not suggesting that their interviewees were plants, but I do suspect some highly selective editing. Let's face it, if you went and interviewed a number of people in Barking around election time you'd find plenty who were prepared to spout racist, ignorant views on air, and you could probably edit those interviews into a pretty compelling piece of news footage. That doesn't mean that the majority of people in Barking are BNP supporters- and to extend that to suggest that the majority of Britons are would be absurd. Yet that, it seems to me, is what many of you in this thread are doing with this clip.

Obama is about 13 points ahead in the polls ATM as I understand it- even taking into account the Bradley Effect that should be ebough to see him comfortably elected.

For the record, as far as I can see (and I do take a considerable interest), Senator McCain is a brave and decent man (abeit one with a very short temper); he pointedly corrected a woman who suggested at one of his rallies that Obama was a terrorist for goodness sake. He is clearly not like GW Bush. It's only the fact that he has selected (I suspect against his better judgement) Sarah Palin as his running mate that makes me hope so fervently for an Obama victory.

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Obama is about 13 points ahead in the polls ATM as I understand it- even taking into account the Bradley Effect that should be ebough to see him comfortably elected.

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Oddly enough, I have not been polled and have never met anyone who has.

He seems to have a hurdle to jump, yet, as it may well turn out that he is not eligible to be President.

Barack Hussein Obama - U.S. Citizen???

:rolleyes:

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/resou...In-Hands-3.jpg

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http://cache.gawker.com/assets/resou...In-Hands-3.jpg

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:undecided

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Don't fall into the trap of assuming that the majority of Americans are ignorant rednecks. [...] Let's face it, if you went and interviewed a number of people in Barking around election time you'd find plenty who were prepared to spout racist, ignorant views on air, and you could probably edit those interviews into a pretty compelling piece of news footage. That doesn't mean that the majority of people in Barking are BNP supporters- and to extend that to suggest that the majority of Britons are would be absurd.
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It's only the fact that he has selected (I suspect against his better judgement) Sarah Palin as his running mate that makes me hope so fervently for an Obama victory.

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I agree with the above in that I am sure you'll find irrational/intolerant people like this everywhere.

And seems that even though Palin was introduced as a game-changer, the gap in the polls have grown lately after she was picked.

From what I've seen, there are plenty of middle class who are not worried about Obama's colour/religion, but concerned about his economic policies and particularly on taxes.

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I agree with the above in that I am sure you'll find irrational/intolerant people like this everywhere. And seems that even though Palin was introduced as a game-changer, the gap in the polls have grown lately after she was picked.

From what I've gathered, there are plenty of middle class who are not worried about Obama's colour/religion, but concerned about his economic policies and particularly taxes.

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Middle class? What middle class? :undecided

I'll be sad to see Bush go.

For years I've been living in hope that he'll accidentally invade France instead of Iraq...

"Sir, the enemy has been defeated..."
"What are the enemy casualties?"
"None sir, they just dropped their cigarettes and ran away to Italy."
"Italy? Erm... is that the boot-shaped one? Yeah? At the bottom of Europe?... oh bugger..."

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I'll be sad to see Bush go.

For years I've been living in hope that he'll accidentally invade France instead of Iraq...

"Sir, the enemy has been defeated..."
"What are the enemy casualties?"
"None sir, they just dropped their cigarettes and ran away to Italy."
"Italy? Erm... is that the boot-shaped one? Yeah? At the bottom of Europe?... oh bugger..."

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I was kind of hoping they would come over here and choke on American fries. :mrgreen:

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Oddly enough, I have not been polled and have never met anyone who has.

He seems to have a hurdle to jump, yet, as it may well turn out that he is not eligible to be President.

Barack Hussein Obama - U.S. Citizen???

:rolleyes:

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Which is strange for you to say, because you've obviously been a victim of something called push-polling. Even if not directly.

If you don't know what it is; it amounts to phoning up thousands of people and asking a very carefully worded question like, "Would you vote for Barack Obama if found out he was a Muslim?" The average gullible monkey's response is "OMG he's Muslim?!?!?!". A few weeks of this and 40% of America believes he's Muslim, despite his Reverend from the United Church of Christ(a Christian church btw) being on television all day, everyday for nearly a month.

This is something both sides are guilty of but the Republicans have really gone to town with it this year.

As for your ridiculous non-American point. It's very easy to find out where a presidential candidate was born. Shock-horror it was in the US of A.

Edit: And please stop spamming your real estate website.

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Which is strange for you to say, because you've obviously been a victim of something called push-polling. Even if not directly.

If you don't know what it is; it amounts to phoning up thousands of people and asking a very carefully worded question like, "Would you vote for Barack Obama if found out he was a Muslim?" The average gullible monkey's response is "OMG he's Muslim?!?!?!". A few weeks of this and 40% of America believes he's Muslim, despite his Reverend from the United Church of Christ(a Christian church btw) being on television all day, everyday for nearly a month.

This is something both sides are guilty of but the Republicans have really gone to town with it this year.

As for your ridiculous non-American point. It's very easy to find out where a presidential candidate was born. Shock-horror it was in the US of A.

Edit: And please stop spamming your real estate website.

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1) No one has called me. Your assumption failed. Funny thing about assumptions.
2) Do tell, how have YOU verified the birth place of Obama? Did you even bother to watch the video?
3) There is no mention of Real Estate at the blog where I store videos...darn those assumptions, they bite you EVERY time.

:rolleyes:

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1) No one has called me. Your assumption failed. Funny thing about assumptions.
2) Do tell, how have YOU verified the birth place of Obama? Did you even bother to watch the video?
3) There is no mention of Real Estate at the blog where I store videos...darn those assumptions, they bite you EVERY time.

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A) I said you may not of been directly push-polled, I never assumed you were called. It does not mean you cannot be affected by the lie.

B) You shouldn't assume I didn't. A child being born is a matter of public record, regardless of his future. Your video inspired me to check for myself, something I'm a big fan of; it took about a quarter of the time it took to watch that piece of trash and read your thinly veiled racism.

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/7...ificateoj3.jpg
Confirmed by Obama campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt as genuine.


Raised seal of authenticity

State Registrars stamp.

The whole package

Regardless of this; as Obama has an American mother he is an American citizen. Interestingly McCain was born in Panama Canal, A US Controlled Territory at the time and of course he has American parents too. You're a bit late this party was held in August and has long since been put to bed. Both candidates are eligible to run for the office of president.

C) It's your real estate website. You could just as easily linked to youtube rather than pimping your site.

apparently paddy power are paying out already on an Obama victory.. thats kind of comforting :)