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    Re: Prayer kills

    im sure its god just trying to test our faith
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephesians
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    Re: Prayer kills

    Why didn't they have a fourth group who weren't prayed to but were told that they were?
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    Re: Prayer kills

    Quote Originally Posted by MadduckUK View Post
    im sure its god just trying to test our faith
    I'll pray for you mate
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    Re: Prayer kills

    Quote Originally Posted by Dareos View Post
    I'll pray for you mate
    you bastard what have i ever done to you
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephesians
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    Re: Prayer kills

    Quote Originally Posted by MadduckUK View Post
    you bastard what have i ever done to you
    Outprayed but never outpunned.

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    Re: Prayer kills

    stick that on my headstone when he has prayed me to death
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephesians
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    Re: Prayer kills

    "Obviously, my colleagues were surprised by the unexpected and counterintuitive outcome," said the Rev. Dean Marek, director of chaplain services at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minn., and a study co-investigator.

    It was a strange end for the mammoth prayer study, which cost $2.4 million and enrolled 1,802 patients who had bypass surgery. Most of the funding came from the British-based John Templeton Foundation, which supports research at the intersection of science and religion.
    <insert fail/facepalm pic here>

    Honestly these people are so stupid. I love the way that they enter into bias thinking that it's obvious that prayer will help. I wonder if, now that they find that it definitely doesn't i.e. that god isn't helping them, that they may actually question a) why he doesn't help b) if he's there at all.

    It cost $2.4 million dollars for a result that was obvious. I hope these people feel guilty at their waste of money that could otherwise have been put to real good use.

    "intersection of science and religion" - pffft, no such thing, science takes it's method and goes where it's discoveries lead it further, religion just hangs onto it's coat-tails.


    Quote Originally Posted by Salazaar View Post
    Why didn't they have a fourth group who weren't prayed to but were told that they were?
    I would expect that you might get mixed/confused results, eg:

    deterioration - most likely due to peoples' heightened anxiety (increased worry due to thinking it must be bad if people have to pray for me) or
    improvement - due to the placebo effect (that's nice I'm safe now cos someone is praying and god will look out for me)
    none of the above.

    Either way it would show that either it's all baloney, god doesn't care or god only cares for the prayers or the well being of certain individuals.
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    Re: Prayer kills

    Wouldn't you be a tad gutted if you were in the group that was prayed for? Even if you didn't believe in god - "alright mate, we're going to pray for you - oh by the way have you seen this study?".

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    Re: Prayer kills

    Quote Originally Posted by Whiternoise View Post
    Wouldn't you be a tad gutted if you were in the group that was prayed for? Even if you didn't believe in god - "alright mate, we're going to pray for you - oh by the way have you seen this study?".
    im more interested in the time machine to be honest
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephesians
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    Re: Prayer kills

    shh patent pending!

    But.. my comment stands, no reason why you couldn't replicate the results with other people? I mean what if you went up to someone you didn't like and said that you'd pray for them - conscious of the article

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    Re: Prayer kills

    Quote Originally Posted by Whiternoise View Post
    what if you went up to someone you didn't like and said that you'd pray for them - conscious of the article
    Dareos is doing it to me right now - i can feel it
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephesians
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    Re: Prayer kills

    Wasn't all this years ago? Has anyone read the study? It's all a bit weird - being confidential the people doing the praying were not even given the names of the people being prayed for...

    What's really weird is that someone somewhere with millions of dollars thought this would be a good spend of money... If you're an atheist then you would never expect there to be a difference, statistically. If you're a christian, well, putting your God to the test and all has never been done in quite this way before!

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    Re: Prayer kills

    Sooo, how you feeling Madduck?
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    Re: Prayer kills

    terrible, i think it may be because i know i need to be up in 5 hours or so, or it might be the praying.. we will see if i last the night
    Quote Originally Posted by Ephesians
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    Re: Prayer kills

    perhaps more of a group effort would help you? should we start a prayer circle?

    we could get in a choir!

    how about it Hexites?
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