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    Damn postal strikes

    Does anyone understand the real reason behind the recent postal strikes? They seem to be having strikes ahead of ballots now.
    It's really peeing me off, I've had stuff delayed for nearly 2 weeks because of it. I've had a few days off work and was hoping to get a fegaming sessions in on some new games, but I've been denied byt the damn postie.

    Small businesses are suffering enough as it is with the recession - without people having hissy fits over "modernisation".

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    Re: Damn postal strikes

    Well, I've just got something delivered that was sent 2 weeks ago (apparently) , so it's a bit annoying.

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    Re: Damn postal strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by darkghost View Post
    Does anyone understand the real reason behind the recent postal strikes? They seem to be having strikes ahead of ballots now.
    It's really peeing me off, I've had stuff delayed for nearly 2 weeks because of it. I've had a few days off work and was hoping to get a fegaming sessions in on some new games, but I've been denied byt the damn postie.

    Small businesses are suffering enough as it is with the recession - without people having hissy fits over "modernisation".
    From what I can gather, the problem's that London has a massively inefficient system, and something in the order of 35,000 employees when it really doesn't need anything like that. The Royal Mail needs to cut excessive spending, and it wants to do that by bringing in vaguely modern equipment and modern practises that will make various people redundant. The union is against this, as ever. Thus, they deal with it by whining like a load of pansies, and then when they don't get their way, declare "BWAAA. BWAAAA. IM NOT TALKING TO U, I HATE U!!!!1!!", and hold nationwide strikes. Of course, they don't at any point consider that the reason for this downsizing is that business is diminishing, and that by pulling more of these strikes, they serve only to alienate more customers and push everyone to their rival networks. They just don't understand that there's a choice in the marketplace these days.

    They just don't understand the extent of the damage they're doing. I work at the Edinburgh mail centre on a part-time basis (I'm also self-employed, but I'd get bored and fat if I didn't have something else to do, and RM pays a ridiculously high figure for part-time unskilled work), and at my place, we've had something like a 50% decline in stamped and Meter/PPI mail, and a 3x increase in DSA mail over the course of the past 12 months. Processing costs vary, but we get 34p for a 1st class meter or PPI letter, and 13p for a DSA letter. The meter, PPI and stamped mail is stuff that's handled 100% by the RM, the DSA is the stuff where the RM only handles the final yard of the delivery, and the rival mail company (be it TNT, Citylink, or whoever) deals with picking it up and distributing it through the country. To put it into figures, meter's down from about 450,000 items a day to around 220,000, and DSA is up from around 300,000 to 1,000,000. You can probably do the maths on how much loss that is, and it's all because of the union ruining everything. If you see a CWU member (they can usually be identified by not being at work, and being visibly underdeveloped freaks who've miraculously overcome colossal odds of natural selection), do punch him for me, thanks.

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    Re: Damn postal strikes

    If it wasn't for the fact that last week I had two cheque books delivered too me, which had the wrong postcode, street, building number, flat number, and occupaints names on them. I might have a tad bit of sympathy.

    Instead I think their incompitant, and deserve a massive pay re-alginment with the reality of the skills and effort they posses.

    This also has NOTHING to do with the two parcels i've had go missing in the last 4 weeks.
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    Re: Damn postal strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by blackbirds View Post
    From what I can gather, the problem's that London has a massively inefficient system, and something in the order of 35,000 employees when it really doesn't need anything like that. The Royal Mail needs to cut excessive spending, and it wants to do that by bringing in vaguely modern equipment and modern practises that will make various people redundant. The union is against this, as ever. Thus, they deal with it by whining like a load of pansies, and then when they don't get their way, declare "BWAAA. BWAAAA. IM NOT TALKING TO U, I HATE U!!!!1!!", and hold nationwide strikes. Of course, they don't at any point consider that the reason for this downsizing is that business is diminishing, and that by pulling more of these strikes, they serve only to alienate more customers and push everyone to their rival networks. They just don't understand that there's a choice in the marketplace these days.

    They just don't understand the extent of the damage they're doing. I work at the Edinburgh mail centre on a part-time basis (I'm also self-employed, but I'd get bored and fat if I didn't have something else to do, and RM pays a ridiculously high figure for part-time unskilled work), and at my place, we've had something like a 50% decline in stamped and Meter/PPI mail, and a 3x increase in DSA mail over the course of the past 12 months. Processing costs vary, but we get 34p for a 1st class meter or PPI letter, and 13p for a DSA letter. The meter, PPI and stamped mail is stuff that's handled 100% by the RM, the DSA is the stuff where the RM only handles the final yard of the delivery, and the rival mail company (be it TNT, Citylink, or whoever) deals with picking it up and distributing it through the country. To put it into figures, meter's down from about 450,000 items a day to around 220,000, and DSA is up from around 300,000 to 1,000,000. You can probably do the maths on how much loss that is, and it's all because of the union ruining everything. If you see a CWU member (they can usually be identified by not being at work, and being visibly underdeveloped freaks who've miraculously overcome colossal odds of natural selection), do punch him for me, thanks.
    Very interesting. Sounds like a bit of a viscious cycle for them - they make the RM service worse by striking and people desert them, making them even less profitable and therefore needing more cuts, leading to more strikes etc.

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    Re: Damn postal strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrard View Post
    Well, I've just got something delivered that was sent 2 weeks ago (apparently) , so it's a bit annoying.
    I can believe it. I sold something on the amazon marketplace, posted it 1st September (1st class) and just arrived today! Been getting almost daily emails for a week asking where it is.

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    Re: Damn postal strikes

    I wonder how much post we will never see that its become lost in the system.

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    Re: Damn postal strikes

    It's looking like we are heading for another full blown postal strike:

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8295714.stm

    Groan.

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    Re: Damn postal strikes

    How to speed up the job losses, and end your profession as quickly as possible.

    what utter, short sighted stupid muppets, but what really gets me is its the general population who will also suffer too.
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    Re: Damn postal strikes

    I see Amazon are looking at alternative delivery methods as a result of the disruption. I wonder if they will go back to RM (if there is an RM left) after this strike. Good move - go on strike to bring down an already struggling business, then there will be no job to go back to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    I see Amazon have cancelled their delivery contract with RM as a result of the disruption.
    However, he denied that the company had cancelled any long-term contracts with Royal Mail.
    Where does it say that?
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    Re: Damn postal strikes

    Cross posted - had corrected my original post. (I misheard a radio report this morning)

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    Re: Damn postal strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    How to speed up the job losses, and end your profession as quickly as possible.

    what utter, short sighted stupid muppets, but what really gets me is its the general population who will also suffer too.
    Indeedie. Absolute idiotic scum that union is. Want some stats and facts?

    # This strike was called on the basis of a series of nationwide ballots. The average ballot had roughly a 66% turnout, of which there was roughly a 55/45 split in favour of the strike action. Overall, only about a third of employees balloted (which I imagine to be less than 1/4 of the company's workers) were actually in favour of the strike.

    # The 2007 strikes cost the Edinburgh Mail Centre something in the order of 200k items per day. Depening on the department, workers can be expected to sort through between 6,000 and 1,500 an hour in the pre-sort sections, at about 500 items an hour in the manual postcode sort section, and around 25,000 items an hour with the benefit of a machine. I invite you to do the maths on the job losses that the union caused there.

    # Two 'wild cat' strikes were called after a delivery driver was suspended without pay for refusing to travel to Perth for a pickup when they were on strike. The union didn't even bother to show up for these, leaving various people standing outside looking confused and vaguely agitated, and not really knowing what they were even striking for. These two strikes put deliveries back by days. They cost the employees collectively thousands of pounds. All because one guy lost part of a shift's pay. Genius, no?


    It's pathetic. The union really is the most destructive, backward, scumtastically moronic organisation I have ever encountered. Absolute scum.

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    Re: Damn postal strikes

    Unions were setup in the day when employers did exploit workers, and this was only way to make them listen. Today we have very restrictive laws about employment, and I see little point in unions.

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    Re: Damn postal strikes

    Quote Originally Posted by oolon View Post
    unions were setup in the day when employers did exploit workers, and this was only way to make them listen. Today we have very restrictive laws about employment, and i see little point in unions.
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    Re: Damn postal strikes

    So...if they (postal workers) screw up my holiday due to them not being able to post things to me on time....can i claim for it?

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