Possible New Rule for the FS area

[Creature]

This is just my opion but...........

on another forum some guy sold me an amd xp2000 chip.
but he stated

£18 untested dont have time too.

baicly if it dont work no come back.

and would ya belive it,didnt work. so i paid £18 for jack.

My point being is,ive just see somebody here with a forsale post.
with the item marked as cheap price untested


can there be a rule that states you only sell working goods,
and if unsure the seller resums all Responsibility to either test it,
or offer a full refund if it dosnt work

i just see the whole "untested" thing means it dont work
or buy it and take ya chances and lose ya money

which to be hounest is a car boot sale thing.
and nobody likes being riped off

what do ya think

[Howard]

I agree. Selling someone something that doesn't work is fraudulent and you're just ripping off innocent people

[kushtibari]

I'll go for that. Its one of those phrases that seem to get used all the time and to me it's just a cynical ploy to get you to pay more cash for something they know is broke. I've seen the same sort of ad on ebay loads and when you check into their feedback you find out they've bought it the month before advertised as 'untested'.

[Bunjiweb]

Sounds like a good idea but very hard to implement and there's no way for us to thoroughly police the sales in the f/s forum at that level as we only provide a platform for the sales.

Ben

[Skii]

Personally I think you are nuts to buy anything advertised with 'If it doesn't work - tough titties'

I think a bit of common sense comes into play here,
- don't buy stuff that 'might not work'
- 'don't send money upfront to someone who has only just aquired 50 posts or has
no hexus user rating.

you can't stop unscrupulous sellers or buyers from operating , but you can avoid getting stung with a little savvy

just my 2 pennys worth.

[Howard]

Sounds like a good idea but very hard to implement and there's no way for us to thoroughly police the sales in the f/s forum at that level as we only provide a platform for the sales.

Ben

Unless there's a mod willing to police...

[aeonf242]

I think generally the whole e-bayness selling something "untested" or "system pull" is a bit of an odd one.

You can put a corpse on e-bay and put "untested but might be alive" and someone will buy it expecting resurrection.

"Buyer beware!" if you're getting something for a cheap price there is probably a very good reason.

HOWEVER on the FS threads in the boards you should be able to trust someone (hence the Hexus User Trust I guess).

The only exception when someone may sell as item as "Untested" is where the seller either doesn't have have the time nor the equipment to test soemthing before selling it....but this is probably a rare occassion.
e.g. a mate gives you a borked Laptop so you hive off the CD ROM drive and Power Supply...if you don't have a similar Laptop then you can't test them....

Honesty is always the best policy....but greed always gets in the way...Either by the ***** trick who is selling it or by the mug who thinks they can get a P4 3.2 for £40.....

Waffle....

[Nick]

Unfortunately, 'caveat empor', (or whatever it is, my Latins more than a little rusty) applies to all trades. As Skii said, if the seller is saying that if the item is untested and may not work, then you have little come back. And as Bunji said, it is very hard to police the for sale forum thoroughly. The for sale forum is provided as a way for members to trade with each other but we have no way of vetting sellers or buyers other than the trust and feedback system.

In this case, you said yourself that it was being sold as untested and if it didn't work then you had no comeback... I would, however, politely get in touch with the seller and see if you can't come to some arrangement, perhaps a refund less the cost of the postage to you. Of course, the seller has the right to refuse anything as they made the terms of the sale clear and pretty much said that you would be taking a chance on whether or not the chip worked.

Best thing is to put it down to (an expensive) experience and keep it in mind for future trades.

[aeonf242]

would ya belive it,didnt work. so i paid £18 for jack.

A salutary lesson for £18, it could've been more expensive.

[Knoxville]

Unless there's a mod willing to police...

there is a mod for the f/s forum but its a busy forums and its gonna be damn near impossible to keep track of every single thread and its contents 24 hours a day, mods sleep aswell yah know

[aeonf242]

mods sleep aswell yah know

I didn't realise they were awake, lol!

Seriously Mods do an excellent job but they can't be expected to police things even when they're referees it's adn excellent extension of the job.....

[Creature]

my point is

dont ya think there should be a rule that says

no untested items
working stuff only

or

untested but if dosnt work will give full refund back

[aeonf242]

What happens when somebody breaks something and then blames the seller?

The rules can't cover everything, just common sense can.

[Creature]

then it gose back to my point of.

dont sell untested stuff

[aeonf242]

dont sell untested stuff

Easier to say don't buy it, unless you beware.

[Swafe]

i think this should be a rule

on ebay, id say 99% of the stuff on there thats sold as untested is broke, i once bought a box of 25 untested CD drives - turned up and they were all dead

needless to say, i had no comeback , and fair enuff it my technically my own fault - but im pretty sure the guy knew they were dead, if the wasnt he would have sold them for more. general rule i go on for ebay now is untested = dead.

Ive sold some stuff as untested before, but thats genuinly untested, like a stick of RDRAM - first of all no RDRAM mobo, secondly i only had 1 stick not a pair, so i couldnt in anyway test it. it could have worked, could have not, thats another story

i think this rule shud go ahead, to stop people being rpped off, im not saying people on hexus would do this, but sooner or later you might have some one new join and sell something untested as dead, annoying ppl on the forums. if somethings untested and it is dead, it just annoys people, they waste money like me and the threadstarter - like paying 18 quid for a dead chip when really its worthless.


itll be hard for the mods to implment , but im all for it you go with it