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    Thats a bit extreme, really.... you want the best people in the world... accept them for who they are and the culture surrounding the sport involved... dont try and make them something they are not...

    you should be happy he is wearing the "suit" at all... if it were me, i'd wear what i want....

    not that I'm a competitor, but it angers me when you take someone who is good at what they do, and discriminate agains tthem for the way they are presented....

    presentation does not dictate what they are good at!

    its not even like its an official ceremony he did this at, this was just in the airport presumably after his flight!
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    Re: Pull your trousers... UP

    Quote Originally Posted by mmh View Post
    Thats a bit extreme, really....

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    Re: Pull your trousers... UP

    Quote Originally Posted by mmh View Post
    Thats a bit extreme, really.... you want the best people in the world... accept them for who they are and the culture surrounding the sport involved... dont try and make them something they are not...

    you should be happy he is wearing the "suit" at all... if it were me, i'd wear what i want....

    not that I'm a competitor, but it angers me when you take someone who is good at what they do, and discriminate agains tthem for the way they are presented....

    presentation does not dictate what they are good at!

    its not even like its an official ceremony he did this at, this was just in the airport presumably after his flight!
    He's representing his country though, not just himself. I bet he wears what the hell he likes at the winter x games and there's no reason he shouldn't when he's there but if you're competing on behalf of your country you should at least make the effort to look presentable. He knew full well there'd be photographers and probably some fans waiting at the airport, the least he could've done is tuck his shirt in.

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    The snowboarding mindset and the Olympic mindset are always bound to clash a bit. It reminds me of the women's snowboard cross at Turin where the leader was so far ahead that she decided to show off and do a trick off the last jump. She subsequently stacked it and lost the gold medal.

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    Re: Pull your trousers... UP

    Quote Originally Posted by mmh View Post
    Thats a bit extreme, really.... you want the best people in the world... accept them for who they are and the culture surrounding the sport involved... dont try and make them something they are not...

    you should be happy he is wearing the "suit" at all... if it were me, i'd wear what i want....

    not that I'm a competitor, but it angers me when you take someone who is good at what they do, and discriminate agains tthem for the way they are presented....

    presentation does not dictate what they are good at!

    its not even like its an official ceremony he did this at, this was just in the airport presumably after his flight!
    With respect Sir, utter crock.

    If you can't be bothered to dress smartly and show respect for you country and the traditons of such a large and prestigious sporting occasion, go home. I don't feel comfortable in a suit at the best of times but I wear one smartly when the situation dictates, as should an olympic athelete representing his country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skii View Post
    With respect Sir, utter crock.

    If you can't be bothered to dress smartly and show respect for you country and the traditons of such a large and prestigious sporting occasion, go home. I don't feel comfortable in a suit at the best of times but I wear one smartly when the situation dictates, as should an olympic athelete representing his country.
    bull-fish... its exactly this mentality thats whats wrong... its all about presentation as opposed to whether he actually has the minerals...

    because he's not in a suit and tie he cant represent his country? his ability got him where he is, why should he be made to dress uncomfortably? surely it should be down to making him feel the most at ease as possible in a stressful situation so he performs to the best of his ability? not making him jump through hoops and miss out on bits of the ceremony because he decided to "let his hair down" when he came off the plane...

    this isnt a big deal, and anyone that thinks that it is a big deal, really needs a reality check....

    stop judging people on thier appearance and start judging them by thier merits!
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    Good job my mum-in-law wasn't about. She has an embarassing habit of giving those chaps showing too much boxer an unceremonious wedgie and a ticking off
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    Quote Originally Posted by mmh View Post
    bull-fish... its exactly this mentality thats whats wrong... its all about presentation as opposed to whether he actually has the minerals...

    because he's not in a suit and tie he cant represent his country? his ability got him where he is, why should he be made to dress uncomfortably? surely it should be down to making him feel the most at ease as possible in a stressful situation so he performs to the best of his ability? not making him jump through hoops and miss out on bits of the ceremony because he decided to "let his hair down" when he came off the plane...

    this isnt a big deal, and anyone that thinks that it is a big deal, really needs a reality check....

    stop judging people on thier appearance and start judging them by thier merits!
    It's not an earth shattering incident no, it's not like he got caught snorting oxycontin off the mascots back but it's disrespectful, lazy and honestly it's behaviour I wouldn't expect from an athelete at that level. I don't like wearing a three piece cage either but when the situation warrants it I will just as he should, he's representing his country at one of the most prestigous sporting events on the calender and not only is it his image he's knocking about it's the rest of his team as well. Would it really have stressed him out that much and made him that uncomfortable to tuck his shirt in and straighten his tie for the journalists waiting at the gate? Hell no, he was either being lazy or trying to be rebelious, half an hour answering questions and posing for some shots and he'd have been on to the bus and into his own gear if he'd wanted, no fuss.

    It's not really a big deal for me, he's not representing my country after all. To be honest in my opnion it's not even news worthy given what's going on elsewhere in the world but he's incredibly lucky to be there, it's a once in a lifetime oppurtunity and I'm sure there are other people who would've given anything for the chance to be in his shoes and he doesn't care enough to straighten his appearance? What kind of example is that to set? I don't care how good you are at what you do, if the job requires you to look neat and tidy you better make sure you do especially when you're on the world stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmh View Post
    bull-fish... its exactly this mentality thats whats wrong... its all about presentation as opposed to whether he actually has the minerals...

    because he's not in a suit and tie he cant represent his country? his ability got him where he is, why should he be made to dress uncomfortably? surely it should be down to making him feel the most at ease as possible in a stressful situation so he performs to the best of his ability? not making him jump through hoops and miss out on bits of the ceremony because he decided to "let his hair down" when he came off the plane...

    this isnt a big deal, and anyone that thinks that it is a big deal, really needs a reality check....

    stop judging people on thier appearance and start judging them by thier merits!
    I agree it's not exactly the deal of the millennium, but that's where my agreement with that ends.

    In being selected for a national team, you are representing your country, and that involves being part of a team, governed by rules and standards.

    If he wasn't prepared to accept that, he could have simply declined to take part. After all, it's not compulsory. But if you take part in an event, especially as a representative of your country, then you should respect the traditions that that entails.

    His attitude strikes me as that of a recalcitrant schoolboy having a little tantrum and rebelling about the uniform. What he did, appearing like that with colleagues can only be a deliberate statement. He needs to grow up.

    If he doesn't want to take part in what the Olympics are then don't take part in them, but don't show up your team and your country.

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    Re: Pull your trousers... UP

    To be honest I just find it bizzare that people have time to care and moan about this type of thing. Let him wear a thong if he wants, they are just clothes, team or not. I can understand wearing team colours at the event for identification, but prior to that, who cares? This 'tradition' is useless. I just wish he didn't go about it like such child. People can bang on about representing your country and whatnot, but if you are a citizen of that country, then you are representative of it anyway! He is who he is from living there. And whats with the stab at dreadlocks? Is everyone in sport meant to have some kind of military buzz cut these days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    In being selected for a national team, you are representing your country, and that involves being part of a team, governed by rules and standards.
    Who sets those rules and standards? Presumably a load of conservative-minded old fuddy-duddies. Essentially what you are saying is that to represent one's country, one must conform to someone else's sartorial rules and standards. I reject that idea. I'm paying to send athletes to the Olympics to represent my country, and I want to be represented by the absolute best athletes we have available, even if they have strong objections to wearing suits and ties on a plane.

    The logical conclusion of your argument is that suit-wearing ability is more important in the Olympic athlete selection process than talent.

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    ^ You have to consider the culture too though. I am pretty sure if it was to happen here, the media would simply portray the person as 'Bad boy X went on a plane with a scruffy look' and it will probably half way in the newspaper.

    Japanese put a far great emphasis on respect, presentation, and they do have a fairly conformist mindset. It's easy to disagree when coming from a country that promotes individuality and is perhaps more open minded in some ways, but the values are tremendously different. Here perhaps only the 'conservative-minded old fuddy-duddies' care, but I am almost certain that most of the general public in Japan would not be too impressed either.

    And like it or not, the Olympic is different things for different people. For most viewer it may just be a sport events. Yet it's never just that (politics are often dragged into it).
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