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Not that the incident itself is of any importance of course (plenty of "yer we shuld of shot it down" posts on other forums) but, wow, what a beautiful aircraft.
Loads of Tu-160 hardware porn on YouTube, one example here
Daily Mail (sorry) pics
Not that the incident itself is of any importance of course (plenty of "yer we shuld of shot it down" posts on other forums) but, wow, what a beautiful aircraft.
Loads of Tu-160 hardware porn on YouTube, one example here
Interesting that they're still testing our response times.
A gliding instructor of mine recalled an incident when he was doing a cross country flight. Gliders are legally allowed through military airspace, although you'd be foolhardy to do so without at least radioing that you're entering. So, he duly radioed the airfield to ask for clearance. The airfield granted it, with a request that they could use the opportunity to practice a fast response operation. They were flying fairly close to the airfield so he and his P2 (think co-pilot) could see the two Eurofighters taxiing. Apparently the speed at which they responded to the scramble was scary, and that it's a sight suddenly seeing two top of the line fighter jets bearing down on you at a few hundred mph
Personally I wouldn't be surprised If we give them a few extra seconds just to throw their analysis off.
(on a side note, a scramble from Conningsby is supposed to be under 4 minutes)
Just sub watching. I think they do it every couple of weeks.
- Who's up there?
+ Cougar, Merlin, Maverick and Goose.
- Great. Maverick and Goose.
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just for the record....
the Russian's are using these superb aircraft to spy out more business/football clubs etc to buy
Originally Posted by Advice Trinity by Knoxville
To be honest the RAF must be welcoming the Russians with open arms. With ongoing defence cuts, strategic bombers floating around gives the RAF a reason to maintain interceptors and patrols.
just wish they could get the Blackjack and Bear to visit some Uk air shows.
Last edited by Flibb; 26-03-2010 at 11:54 AM.
I'm surprised that you could pick a glider up on radar (without putting the sensitivity so high there's a lot of clutter) as I didn't think they had much of a radar return?
Interesting that they're still testing our response times.
A gliding instructor of mine recalled an incident when he was doing a cross country flight. Gliders are legally allowed through military airspace, although you'd be foolhardy to do so without at least radioing that you're entering. So, he duly radioed the airfield to ask for clearance. The airfield granted it, with a request that they could use the opportunity to practice a fast response operation. They were flying fairly close to the airfield so he and his P2 (think co-pilot) could see the two Eurofighters taxiing. Apparently the speed at which they responded to the scramble was scary, and that it's a sight suddenly seeing two top of the line fighter jets bearing down on you at a few hundred mph
Personally I wouldn't be surprised If we give them a few extra seconds just to throw their analysis off.
(on a side note, a scramble from Conningsby is supposed to be under 4 minutes)
With that huge wingspan?
Yeah, but they're mostly built from very lightweight materials and, bar the wingspan, are built with as low a profile as possible to reduce drag.
= Low radar reflection
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I came across this article last night when I got home and ended up reading up more on the Tu160... awesome plane! Nice to know it's still being used
My understanding was that the (relatively) newer gliders are made from glass reinforced plastic (or similar) which doesn't affect radar waves, which is why aircraft use GRP as covers for various radar devices (eg, nose cones). Remove all that from a glider and there's very little left to reflect radar!
How does carbon fibre effect radar? You could build the whole super structure on a glider from that with a fibreglass skin. Leaving you with probably just a few KG of metal in there for fixings etc.My understanding was that the (relatively) newer gliders are made from glass reinforced plastic (or similar) which doesn't affect radar waves, which is why aircraft use GRP as covers for various radar devices (eg, nose cones). Remove all that from a glider and there's very little left to reflect radar!
If carbon fibre was to be picked up on radar, you could always use kevlar in your GRE/GRP (glass reinforced epoxy), which I'm pretty sure wouldn't be and would still be very strong
Even though it's skirting our airspace it's nice to see a Blackjack up in the air to be honest, it's usually the Bears they use for excersises like this.
Radar devices use a wide range of wavelengths to detect objects, different materials reflect diferent wavelngths. During the various conflicts in which the US deployed stealth aircraft, it was found that some naval radar systems could detect stealth quiet easily.
The White Swan is one of the most beautiful combat aircraft ever made. Ten of the eleven Tu160 aircraft in Ukranian hands were destroyed and it would have been nice if a few had ended up in Museums!
Seems a waste to turn an expensive aircraft into scrap:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-VJCZCx-pk
AFAIK the plane was over international waters and the Russians have been doing this for yonks. Even now the US is probably doing the same and you only have to look at the shooting down of flight 007(a US RC135 was suspected to be nearby) to see this has been happening for decades.
Our submarine fleet(and the US and French ones) frequently shadow the Russian submarines and their surface fleet so why people are making a big deal of this I don't know!!
The comments in the Daily Fail article are hilarious!!
Great, lets shoot down the aircraft so we can all have a nice nuclear winter soon. If the UK and Russia wanted to attack other they would not be using manned aircraft flying near their territory would they!! It would be more likely to be an SLBM,ICBM,cruise missile or a long range stand off missile.
Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 26-03-2010 at 08:11 PM.
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