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    Where would you like the BBC to save money

    Just throwing this out there, interested to see what people think.

    Let's suppose that tomorrow, it was announced that the BBC would cut the license fee by 25% to help us through these hard economic times.

    What would you want them to do in order to make those cuts happen?

    Introduce an RPI-linked pay cap?
    Cut certain sections of the website?
    Stop producing their own programmes?
    Introduce advertising?
    Cut certain radio/TV stations?

    What would you do?

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    Re: Where would you like the BBC to save money

    Introduce advertising on digital only BBC channels, like News24, Three and Four leave only 1 & 2 non advertising. Allow users outside the UK to buy a TV licence for iplayer, I have many friends in the states who would like to get BBC TV and Radio there.
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    Re: Where would you like the BBC to save money

    cut any shows to do with decorating, moving home or auctions


    which would be about 90% of all BBC programming on TV
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    Re: Where would you like the BBC to save money

    Quote Originally Posted by oolon View Post
    Introduce advertising on digital only BBC channels, like News24, Three and Four leave only 1 & 2 non advertising. Allow users outside the UK to buy a TV licence for iplayer, I have many friends in the states who would like to get BBC TV and Radio there.
    They're all digital only round here....

    And cut the huge wages they all earn, it's stupid, especially Jonaffon Woss.

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    Re: Where would you like the BBC to save money

    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    What would you do?
    I'd expidite their move to mediacity at Salford Quays for a start and then sell off the land and buildings in London they have to make a large amount of cash as buildings and houses in the area of Londonium sell for stupid prices

    I'd stop the paying of excessive wages of over £2 million a year to people like Wossy and Norton. There is no way these 2 are worth these wages. I reckon the only people who warrant wages this high are highly skilled doctors/surgeons who save lives on a regular basis.

    Thirdly I'd cut their Welsh language website for a start. I mean we're in the 21st Century and all the welsh know english, so why bother paying for translation services and even more staff to provide a select few with a website which sounds like it's dying from pneumonia. it's not as if Welsh is properly used any more is it? It's only used on S4C shows and by shopkeepers when english people come in on their holidays (oooh...who's rising to that bait... go on, go on)

    I'll think of more before the day is out but the above would be a great start

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    Re: Where would you like the BBC to save money

    I agree with 1 & 2 as public service channels with no advertising, all other channels to allow advertising revenues. But for that I'd want to see a much bigger reduction than 25%, tbh

    Oh, and I should point out that since I don't watch any broadcast TV this wouldn't directly affect me beyond adding adverts to service I currently use ad free, and I still wouldn't mind that


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    I should also point out that if (under the above proposal) they moved Woss and Norton onto channels other than 1 & 2 they could probably generate more than enough advertising revenue to afford those huge salaries. The problem is they are trying to compete with commercial broadcasters who can afford to pay huge wages because the big stars will generate advertising revenue during their shows...

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    Re: Where would you like the BBC to save money

    Cut channels. I think they have far too many channels that people just don't bother with and certain productions have a pilot then have 3-4 shows then get axed as they were put on BBC3 at 11:00 at night. Just a complete waste of money. Surely they must be making something back for selling the old shows to Dave...

    Agree with Lee about moving to media city however that would just introduce more congestion around manchester which I for one don't want to see

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    Re: Where would you like the BBC to save money

    Quote Originally Posted by oolon View Post
    Allow users outside the UK to buy a TV licence for iplayer, I have many friends in the states who would like to get BBC TV and Radio there.
    That is a VERY good idea I think.

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    Re: Where would you like the BBC to save money

    Allow ads of the BBC web site?

    Surely something like one medium size ad per page would generate a very substantial income that would possibly even pay for the whole service while not being distracting enough to annoy everyone?

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    Re: Where would you like the BBC to save money

    International versions of the BBC website already have ads, and I doubt in the UK one ad per page would fund their site.

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    Re: Where would you like the BBC to save money

    I think allowing users outside the UK to purchase a license would cause some issues with broadcasting rights - I'm pretty sure there's a lot of content that the BBC doesn't have rights to show outside the UK...

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    Re: Where would you like the BBC to save money

    Quote Originally Posted by Dareos View Post
    cut any shows to do with decorating, moving home or auctions


    which would be about 90% of all BBC programming on TV
    However, those are relatively low budget shows and would only send people to other channels. They're terrible programs, but be fair - they're only on in the middle of the day when only the unemployed and the elderly are around to watch them.



    • I would get rid of BBC3 entirely, there are hardly any decent shows on it (mostly pilots, as people say) that actually come from the BBC - so Family Guy doesn't count. Put pilot shows on iPlayer as exclusives and then filter them into BBC1 and BBC2 if they become popular enough. There are enough people watching iPlayer to make it worthwhile and the shows would get a much larger audience than BBC3 (at the end of last year, 80 million requests for shows and 5 million unique users a week).
    • BBC4 is worth keeping, there are some really great documentaries on there and it's generally interesting watching. As for budget, the quality of the programs is usually up there so I think it's worth it.
    • The BBC needs to make a few very good miniseries - it's what they're best at (besides comedy and the news). Generally when they try to make an adaptation of a book/novel/play, they do a superb job - especially if it's a period story. They've made some really good two part shorts recently, like Dive, so showcasing talented pro-amateur directors is a good move.
    • Radio they're doing a pretty good job of cutting back, R1-R4 are fine the way they are, R5, R6 and R7 are ok - though personally I think they should roll R6 and R1 together. R7 is supposedly being re-branded as Radio 4 extra or something to that effect. Cutting the Asian Network is contentious, but ultimately I think it's a case of trying to be Jack-of-all-trades.
    • I think iPlayer would work well abroad, with a paid subscription (advertising won't cut it). I don't see how licensing becomes an issue, just only supply content that has been approved for international broadcast.
    • Go down the iTunes route and sell shows abroad. iPlayer is great, but there are plenty of TV shows that I'd like to have a copy of on my hard drive (without resorting to suspect methods). They already have a reasonable online store selling things like DVDs, but make it more accessible (like a link to buy on iPlayer) and allow digital downloads. You'd need to balance between buying and watching, but perhaps let things show on iPlayer and then a couple of months after they've expired you could make them available to buy.


    The trick is staying close to the BBC mission statement and keeping to their roots. What I don't want is for them to become a business.

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    Re: Where would you like the BBC to save money

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve View Post
    International versions of the BBC website already have ads, and I doubt in the UK one ad per page would fund their site.
    OK, maybe 1 ad per page was a bit ambitious but you get the idea, a few 'tasteful' ads here and there could really bring in some money with the amount of traffic they get and help maintain the high quality of the site.

    I also think that having links to buy old shows on the iplayer is a good idea, micro payments per ep and allowing downloads if desired would be a great step forward imho.

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    Re: Where would you like the BBC to save money

    It's simple. They are either (i) a business or (ii) a public service broadcaster.

    If it is (i) - start doing 3rd party advertising. They already do that internally now anyways.

    If it is (ii) - keep doing original content (which may or may not be boring) and stop buying US shows and paying people like a business venture.

    Don't do (i) and (ii).

    They should also keep just one TV channel and one Radio channel, that's it.

    That should reduce the TV Licence a bit.

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    Re: Where would you like the BBC to save money

    Quote Originally Posted by scaryjim View Post
    I think allowing users outside the UK to purchase a license would cause some issues with broadcasting rights - I'm pretty sure there's a lot of content that the BBC doesn't have rights to show outside the UK...
    Indeed, I was thinking of BBC originated content rather than live streaming of BBC1 etc. It also brings up syndication rights. However Digital delivery of content is the future, the BBC needs to deliver to the world. My friends in the states download caps of Dr Who etc, as it takes SO long to come out there. Give them a means to get it legally.
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    Re: Where would you like the BBC to save money

    check out who runs the UKTV channels, like Gold, Watch, Dave, Alibi, Eden. Blighty etc etc.....

    Now tell me the BBC doesnt run commercial channels
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