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Yep Empire and the injustice that it entails makes me angry, guilty.
The Cow by Ogden Nash
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Forgive and forget Blubby, you gorgeous little mushroom!
We can't all go around hating the Germans still, all these years after WWII.
Hating us now, for the Empire and 'the injustice it entails' makes as much sense as me hating you, for the IRA Birmingham pub bombings, or a million other examples.
Have a jaffa cake and a cup of tea, and let sleeping dogs lie.
So patronise me, if that makes you feel better, a mushroom?Originally Posted by Vaul
Forgive and forget Blubby, you gorgeous little mushroom!
We can't all go around hating the Germans still, all these years after WWII.
Hating us now, for the Empire and 'the injustice it entails' makes as much sense as me hating you, for the IRA Birmingham pub bombings, or a million other examples.
Have a jaffa cake and a cup of tea, and let sleeping dogs lie.
You would be surprised how many British hate the Germans.
I dont hate the British, my fiancee is English. The British are still trying to extend their empire and Iraq is a reason so your point is moot anyway.
Patronise me again...ow...or something.
The Cow by Ogden Nash
The cow is of the bovine ilk;
One end is moo, the other, milk.
It wasn't an attempt to patronise, more an attempt to lighten the tone, of course, your negative outlook on these sort of things didn't allow you to see this. Nevermind.
The British are trying to 'extend the Empire'? Hardly. No more than the Irish are trying to extend theirs, by gaining land via the threat of terrorism.
Start a thread in Question Time if you like mate, and we can discuss the whole issue in more detail, in a forum more suited to those discussions. I'm sure it would be interesting to cross swords with someone of your viewpoint.
Lmao, this has to be one of the silliest things that I have ever read, it may be worth starting a thread alright if not only to educate you on "Irish Empire" although that is the first time I have ever heard that phrase.
The Cow by Ogden Nash
The cow is of the bovine ilk;
One end is moo, the other, milk.
Only about as silly as the claim that we are fighting in Iraq to 'extend our Empire'.
I think you can put a closer link between Irish terrorism and the wish to gain Northern Ireland, than you can on the British trying to extend their 'Empire' into Iraq, wouldn't you say?
You're right though - 'Irish' and 'Empire' doesn't go together very well (funny that), perhaps I should have said 'extend their boarders'.
Educate all you like mate - last time I checked, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland were two different places. Or do you dispute this fact?
Last edited by Stewart; 19-05-2004 at 04:45 PM.
Tut tut my vegetables
I dont think Britain or Ireland has any intentions of expanding their Empires.
Vaul the IRA are not the Irish and tbh I think most Irish people couldnt give a **** about gaining more land.
As for people hating the Brits hating the Germans and the Irish hating the British i'm afraid it is true of quite a few people I've met. Although suspicious is probably a more correct term for the feelings involved.
Indeed, and the British people are not the British forces in Iraq, although I can see how you could be proud of the Brits in Iraq. Not so sure on the IRA, however...
Exactly. I was just saying that its as silly to say the Irish are extending their 'empire' via the whole Northern Ireland situation, as it is to say that the British are trying to open up a Middle-Eastern branch of their 'empire' by starting with Iraq.
Scary thing is, I think some people actually believe the British \ Iraq thing is true.
Takes all sorts, doesn't it?
this is NEARLY worth puting in the debating forum, innit?
Vaul was trying to lighten it a little...I saw it like that....so it might be time to avoid this subject in here....as it is supposed to be quite Pro England....not a political attack or defense....a warm cuddly English thread....like Cucumber sarnies and Pimms with lemonade
Yes but I wasnt implying that the the modern IRA was anything to be proud of.
It is the Brit Gov more than the Brit Forces that are responsible for Brits involvement the Iraq war and it is possible to support the brit forces without supporting the cause.
I think there are questions to be asked about the reasons that the Brit Gov decided to move into Iraq without the backing of the UN.
I was, I really was. Still, you can read it how you like on the net.Vaul was trying to lighten it a little...I saw it like that
I could have used a smilie I suppose, to hammer the point home, but I thought it would be Ok 'as is'.
Last edited by Stewart; 19-05-2004 at 05:34 PM.
I know mate, just pointing out that the British government does not represent the views of the British people. I didn't even vote Labour.
I think this thread should be chopped in half, and the latter half (everything post-Blubs comments, or my making an issue of his commentsI think there are questions to be asked about the reasons that the Brit Gov decided to move into Iraq without the backing of the UN.
Let the mods decide!
Exactly my intentionas it is supposed to be quite Pro England....not a political attack or defense....a warm cuddly English thread....like Cucumber sarnies and Pimms with lemonade
Maybe I should have asked, whats the best thing about Britain instead?
In no particular order;
1. Habeas Corpus
2. We're an island
3. Multiculinarianism (It's my word and I'm sticking to it)
4. The Full English
5. We drive on the right side of the road, i.e. the left
On the subject of the empire my favourite humorous quote is;
"Why does the sun never set on the British empire - because God wouldn't trust an Englishman in the dark !!"
Have started a new thread in Question time.
Hope to see some of you there.
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