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    Cadburys easter eggs in Austrailia

    http://www.cadbury.com.au/Products/Halal-Products.aspx

    So does this mean Easter eggs will have the Halal mark shown on the packet in Australia?

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    Re: Cadburys easter eggs in Austrailia

    Dunno- who cares?

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    Re: Cadburys easter eggs in Austrailia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rave View Post
    Dunno- who cares?
    +1

    Don't have to be Christian to enjoy chocolate regardless of the shape it comes in
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    I do like a bit of hot crumpet

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    Re: Cadburys easter eggs in Austrailia

    Quote Originally Posted by finlay666 View Post
    +1

    Don't have to be Christian to enjoy chocolate regardless of the shape it comes in
    Those crazy fools when they eat a chocolate egg or bunny, they are OBVIOUSLY celebrating the jebus thing, definitely not a pagan fertility festival, definitely not.

    As such anyone who isn't straight cristian shouldn't be able to take part.

    If your eyes are a little too close together, no chocolate for you, if your a ginger then under no circumstances must any chocolate be put inside the gingered containment cell.
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    Re: Cadburys easter eggs in Austrailia

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    Those crazy fools when they eat a chocolate egg or bunny, they are OBVIOUSLY celebrating the jebus thing, definitely not a pagan fertility festival, definitely not.
    why would celebrating a Pagan festival be any better than the Jesus thing? Its all false prophets going to hell now bla bla bla
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    Re: Cadburys easter eggs in Austrailia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rave View Post
    Dunno- who cares?
    well it matters to me, because what is the point on chocolate?! If they can't be bothered to read the ingredients, that's their problem. Why would I want a religious symbol on my chocolate? It's offensive to me. As for an Islamic symbol on food that is produced for a Christian festival, it makes me wonder who is making these strange choices and why? Will non halal foods soon bear a haraam sign to show how impure it is?
    Last edited by j1979; 19-04-2011 at 01:26 PM.

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    Re: Cadburys easter eggs in Austrailia

    Quote Originally Posted by j1979 View Post
    As for an Islamic symbol on food that is produced for a Christian festival
    I never realised the Easter bunny was so heavily featured in the New Testament

    You don't have to be Jewish to eat Challah bread
    You don't have to be Christian to eat bread and drink wine
    You don't have to be Hindu/Muslim/Any other religion to eat food loosely related to a festival that isn't even theirs
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    I do like a bit of hot crumpet

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    Re: Cadburys easter eggs in Austrailia

    Quote Originally Posted by finlay666 View Post
    I never realised the Easter bunny was so heavily featured in the New Testament

    You don't have to be Jewish to eat Challah bread
    You don't have to be Christian to eat bread and drink wine
    You don't have to be Hindu/Muslim/Any other religion to eat food loosely related to a festival that isn't even theirs

    lol the Easter bunny doesn't lay chocolate eggs, and if it did I bet they wouldn't have a halal symbol on them. Just a list of ingredients and some aluminium foil.

    Why does chocolate need a halal sign? why can't these people be bothered to read the ingredients?

    scotch eggs are nice, a welcome member to any buffet! I heard the French national sport was farting at buffets, so maybe scotch eggs should come with a potential fart warning!? I for one will be campaigning for fart likelihood warnings on food labels.

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    Re: Cadburys easter eggs in Austrailia

    Quote Originally Posted by j1979 View Post
    Why would I want a religious symbol on my chocolate? It's offensive to me.
    Really? Is it really offensive to you?

    The ridiculousness of being offended at everything goes both ways you know.

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    Re: Cadburys easter eggs in Austrailia

    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    Really? Is it really offensive to you?

    The ridiculousness of being offended at everything goes both ways you know.
    yes so lets just leave it that way it was... if it aint broke!

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    Re: Cadburys easter eggs in Austrailia

    So everyone's bothered about the religious connotations not the ritual killing that is replacing previous more humane killing practices in many food products, we all eat everyday(often not marked as halal btw), based on cultural sensitivity rather than best practices or animal welfare.

    This is what annoys me about this whole culture of offence, everyone gets so wrapped in it, that you MISS THE ACTUAL ISSUE.

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    Re: Cadburys easter eggs in Austrailia

    Quote Originally Posted by j1979 View Post
    Why would I want a religious symbol on my chocolate? It's offensive to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    Really? Is it really offensive to you?

    The ridiculousness of being offended at everything goes both ways you know.
    I think I've figured it out why it offends j1979 as you can see he is clearly an employee of Mars Inc. Its just that your sig...


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    Re: Cadburys easter eggs in Austrailia

    Quote Originally Posted by j1979 View Post
    lol the Easter bunny doesn't lay chocolate eggs, and if it did I bet they wouldn't have a halal symbol on them. Just a list of ingredients and some aluminium foil.

    Why does chocolate need a halal sign? why can't these people be bothered to read the ingredients?
    How can a list of ingredients tell you 100% if something is Halal or not? all it can tell you is if any of the 'forbidden' items are in it, not how it is prepared

    So now we have established that rabbit's don't lay Easter Eggs, so what does?
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    I do like a bit of hot crumpet

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    Quote Originally Posted by j1979 View Post
    It's offensive to me. As for an Islamic symbol on food that is produced for a Christian festival, it makes me wonder who is making these strange choices and why?

    That really did make me smile, the irony in it is brilliant. Easter is to celebrate Jesus rising form the Dead... .

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    Re: Cadburys easter eggs in Austrailia

    Quote Originally Posted by finlay666 View Post
    How can a list of ingredients tell you 100% if something is Halal or not? all it can tell you is if any of the 'forbidden' items are in it, not how it is prepared

    So now we have established that rabbit's don't lay Easter Eggs, so what does?
    if we are talking halal in meat then thats different, halal the refers to the method of slaughter (Dhabiha).. the only way that chocolate can be haraam (inpure) and therefore not halal is the ingredients. IE pork gelatine or cochineal (e120)

    at the end of the day, some people could actually die from a snickers bar if the have a peanut allergy yet all they get is a statement saying contains nuts. Yet products have a symbol on them to say if it contains an ingredient that makes it pure, based on legend. It's the 21st century this information is not relevant, all information should be factual.

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    Re: Cadburys easter eggs in Austrailia

    Quote Originally Posted by j1979 View Post
    if we are talking halal in meat then thats different, halal the refers to the method of slaughter (Dhabiha).. the only way that chocolate can be haraam (inpure) and therefore not halal is the ingredients. IE pork gelatine or cochineal (e120)
    There is a very long list of E numbers that can be derived from animal products such as animal fats
    http://www.vegsoc.org/page.aspx?pid=728

    E numbers only require the chemical names to be declared, not the source of the chemical

    A quick (I don't have a biological degree so there may in fact be more)
    E304, E222, E325, 6 and 7, E431 to 436, E442, E470-475, 479, 481-483, E491 to 495, E570, E631, E640,

    That is a pretty long list, add to that
    E104
    E160a(i)
    E160a(ii)
    As these may vegetarian however use gelatin derived from animal products.

    Any of those 33+ could make something no longer Halal and instead 'questionable'

    From working in the food industry for a number of years I know it's near impossible to get information like that from a supplier, even when the supplier in question was 30 miles away, it wasn't even possible to guarantee a gluten free product due to the factory producing the item used gluten in other products and couldn't guarantee there was no cross contamination. Same applies here.


    Quote Originally Posted by j1979 View Post
    at the end of the day, some people could actually die from a snickers bar if the have a peanut allergy yet all they get is a statement saying contains nuts. Yet products have a symbol on them to say if it contains an ingredient that makes it pure, based on legend. It's the 21st century this information is not relevant, all information should be factual.
    The information IS factual, it's also relevant (they could put on the label that it doesn't contain any dolphin either if they could prove it), but clearly targeted at yourself. Obviously the perceived implications for both a nut allergy sufferer and someone choosing to eat Halal food are very different, although it certainly isn't my place to say that either party should be deprived of their information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggerai View Post
    I do like a bit of hot crumpet

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