Anyone in the armed forces?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

What about joining the TA??

[Pancake]

The main reason i got annoyed is because the thread was not about "Should i join the army" or "Am i the right kind of person" or "Is it right for me"

The main reason i got annoyed was because of comment such as "reinforces the point that this career path probably isn't for you."

Uhhh no one here actually knows me... How on EARTH can they decide its not right for me?

I do understand however that most of you guys are actually just looking out for me, and posting helpful information/stories, so thanks for that!

And CAT-THE-FIFTH, i looked into it. but i really do want to try make a career out of this. I just find doing 9-5 soo borring, and if i die just working 9-5 jobs my whole live, even if i made a load of cash. I will just be like "Yeah, that was boring" as i wouldent have really achived anything real other than some money and loads of wasted boring office time

I would much rather die sooner, and be doing exiting things and meaningful things.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I was thinking more along the lines of joining the TA for say a year and seeing if you liked what you were doing. The TA does deploy abroad too. You might also get an idea of what career path you would want to follow in the army too. I assume after that you could join the army??

Just throwing out some ideas(if they are of any use).

[Pancake]

Ideas are always of use, its just people trying to decide things for me i dont like.

Just had a read of the good 'ol passport and saw this

13. Loss of U.S. Citizenship (3) serving in the armed forces of a foreign state.

I think its US Army all the way then...

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I assume in the UK you would not loose your citizenship if you served in the US army,right?? Better check that one too!

Its seems US laws are quite tough then!

[redddraggon]

I assume in the UK you would not loose your citizenship if you served in the US army,right?? Better check that one too!

It's pretty hard to lose UK Citizenship. Joining the US Army certainly wouldn't do it.

Personally I think being able to join fine units such as the Royal Marines, well worth the loss of US Citizenship.

[Pancake]

Wait a second, how would the UK even know i am in the Army?

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Wait a second, how would the UK even know i am in the Army?

Tax purposes??

[melon]

Yeah i watched all of Ross Kemps documentaries, and it does seem faaarrrrr move interesting than regular boring old life, it seems like all of the people who joined up have said its the best decision they have ever made.

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Did they ask the ones who returned with no legs / arms and other permanent injuries ?

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[Pancake]

Did they ask the ones who returned with no legs / arms and other permanent injuries ?

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They did yeah, they said its terrible but they don't regret it one bit. have you seen it? its a great show

A bit OT, but does anyone have recommendations for a tough camera? i want to get one now so i can start taking pics when i go to Germany

[Blitzen]

Just reading the thread, and loads more around the net about the same subject. It seems that there is no support what so ever for people joining the military :S I would get more support pirating movies! wtf!

1. At 18 years old, unless you are VERY gifted academically, you wouldnt be accepted to flying school. Most of the candidates for this in ALL the armed forces are approached by the military, not the other wy around.

2. There is support for the forces. Forget what a few mindless idiots think about it being 'unjust' or against human rights'. Your job, no matter if you are a pilot, infantry, a steward...........is to KILL AND PROTECT. Nothing more. Nothing less.

3. Guys in the careers office are well trained in picking the right people and rejecting the wrong. With your outloook on the forces, they will find you out

4. I did civillain jobs (electronics engineer) before and after the mob. It would do you the world of good to do the same, as your viewpoints may well change.

[ik9000]

1. At 18 years old, unless you are VERY gifted academically, you wouldnt be accepted to flying school. Most of the candidates for this in ALL the armed forces are approached by the military, not the other wy around.

2. There is support for the forces. Forget what a few mindless idiots think about it being 'unjust' or against human rights'. Your job, no matter if you are a pilot, infantry, a steward...........is to KILL AND PROTECT. Nothing more. Nothing less.

3. Guys in the careers office are well trained in picking the right people and rejecting the wrong. With your outloook on the forces, they will find you out

4. I did civillain jobs (electronics engineer) before and after the mob. It would do you the world of good to do the same, as your viewpoints may well change.

I had friends do Air Squadron at uni and become pilots that way, but after getting a rock-hard degree and lots of training ie vetting, in the interim. My only regret is not doing the same. If you really want to do it, can I suggest not listening to a half-committed distraction of a g/f who, it will turn out, has no real interest in your long term future.

[TheAnimus]

1. At 18 years old, unless you are VERY gifted academically, you wouldnt be accepted to flying school. Most of the candidates for this in ALL the armed forces are approached by the military, not the other wy around.

I didn't want to be so blunt, but unless when he looked at the flight equation, and as some said that looks wrong with the sqr notation (as they where following it through in their head), or really understand how it hangs together he hasn't a hope in hell.

Flying is NOT anything like as simple as driving a tank (sorry dad!).

[riding moon]

The Terms and conditions of the forces will change again within the next few years to suit the reduced personnel and fit in with a different forces shortly. Most likely the pension will change again for the worst so if you do, get in soon.

Afghan is a breeze, forget the movies and TV. On patrol is where things take a turn for the worst so Ross Kemp is a example of that and normally the real causes for mishaps is because they all take it as if its a joke out there and forget simple things. It can be long hours but in order to focus its normally easier than a 9 - 5 job. You just have to deal with the fact that you have to be a little dirtier and you sweat a lot. Longer breaks as std in the forces, little real work unless its monitoring something and about £15,000 for spending 6 months in Afghan. It's a good thing only 90,000 full time personnel know what its really like. Forgot to add if your on call/duty you will be relied upon to take care of reporting/controlling itor call someone. Though again normally you just wait till the morning.

I wouldn't touch the US army, bad haircuts required, less freedom, first promotion is for passing a run, lower pay, way lower, don't know about the pension, better equipment except clothing which is far heavier, better/more polite personnel, R&R facilities kick arse but the UK army pays them so UK personnel can use it. Don't take my word for the US army as I don't know enough.

Something else thats important the Rules Of Engagements differ for the two forces in a small way but it means the US army gets to be brutal more, UK army is very touchy feely if it can be. Though they like to make out that there not, everything changes when it has anything to do with the Special Forces though. Which if I was young I would go down that route, not Para's though.

[Pancake]

Pay is lower, but thats mainly because Health and Dental is included (And healthcare costs in US)
And tbh i am not THAT bothered about the pay, as long as its enough to keep my technology habit well fed. And i see what you mean about the ROE, in all the documentaries and YouTube clips the US army just blow crap up, and the UK forces knock on doors and stuff.

I dont think i have much of a choice though tbh

[Blitzen]

Afghan is a breeze, forget the movies and TV.

Sorry admins, and at the risk of a ban.............that has to be the MOST IDIOTIC STATEMENT i have EVER read on a forum.
What a complete fool!