yup.. trifle is sheer genius.
0iD for one agrees... . and MadUK doesn;t
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yup.. trifle is sheer genius.
0iD for one agrees... . and MadUK doesn;t
http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hotpot...-desserts.html
Originally Posted by Advice Trinity by Knoxville
Trifle FTW.
Mind you, sticky toffee pudding is another fine contender.
St George's Day should be a bank hol in England.
still not a fan.
VodkaOriginally Posted by Ephesians
Can anyone who can remember things tell us why St George was chosen as our Patron Saint? Seems a bit weird. It would make more sense to have a PS that actually had a connection with us...
It seems to be a combination of the values he stood for as well as superstition in battle.
Following info taken from www.StGeorgesDay.com
"It was in the year 1415 AD that St. George became the Patron Saint of England when English Soldiers under Henry V when he won the battle of Agincourt."
St. George was born in Cappadocia (modern day Turkey) in the 3rd century AD and was a Christian who was a successful soldier under the Roman Emperor Diocletian. He was eventually killed when he refused to renounce his faith under persecution by Diocletian.
During the middle ages and Crusades I'm sure the idea of a virtuous/holy soldier had obvious appeal - and yet even later, and further afield, "...his name had become associated with the purity of spirit, selfless devotion to duty and boundless courage and valour in the face of adversity." So that seems to be the reason.
For more on his ties with a England - LINK
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We could have had St Crispin for Crecy (1346). You would have though our continental neighbours would have learnt by then, 69 years laters. Not to wade through mud while monsterous brutes monsterously big bows and arrows are shooting at you.Originally Posted by Kenneth
EDIT; Crispin is th esaint of leatherworkers. The severing of the dragons head also has some significance according to my work collegue; something about severing ties to rome. He's a history buff but he claims his memory is awful.
Last edited by Domestic_Ginger; 24-04-2012 at 01:29 PM.
shame they should make it a bank holiday
it the same for all other national dances, but the Brits make it sound a lot worse than it is.
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Crispin and Crispian(us) were shoe-making twins from Faversham, IIRC - though some say they came from France.
I've always though St Alban would have been a more obvious choice but the medieval mind was quite different from the modern one. I've not heard of the dragon being symbolic of Rome, though. Later teaching may have put a spin on this but St George was popular a long time before the Reformation. So was St Michael (another dragon slayer, I believe) as well as Edward the Confessor. I think Edward III was the big champion of St George, who really pushed the cult of the saint (and made him trendy.)
Last edited by pollaxe; 24-04-2012 at 02:30 PM. Reason: Edit St George was in the frame before 1415 too - which was the original reason I was posting.. I'm easily distracted.. :o)
I may be biased, but there seems to be more of a case for St Alban: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Alban, not just because he was actually from England, but also, he seems to have been around before Georgie.
Rome = Pope
My posts are barely legibable.
Not so sure about St Alban, rhymes with a continental breakfast cereal. Anyway dragons are cool.
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