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    Wind Farms and Hot Air

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/ene...-minister.html

    So apparently it might be the end of wind farm expansion.

    I'll be honest, so long as your not hearing them, as they are bloody loud, I do think they are very elegant and simply beautiful.

    However I do doubt the cost of them, the fact they are so unreliable, but with the constantly increasing gas prices, our de-commissioning of coal (which still makes the bulk of our load) I once again have to ask how come we've not been investing in Fission, I think dropping the 'n' word might help with simpletons. I for instance love all the complex re-processing we do for other countries, then end up buying increasing amounts of power from them doing the simpler generation from the fuel.

    If you want to see how useless wind is for anything to do with the bulk of the load, check out:
    http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/
    It's been windy this week, so its doing better than normal, however notice the supply is, almost naturally cyclic with demand.

    The environmental impact of having more and more engergy storage by pumping water concerns me, and this is why I have to say I won't be sad to see a slow down of new wind farms been built.

    The irony is the last government introduced so much in the name of been green, but really who has benefited from the Photovolatic Installations? My parents because I'd had a good enough year to plonk down the better part of £15k on panels for them, which now the poorest members of society will be feeling the pinch of paying for most, anyone looking at their electricy bill this year and thinking its a bit high, thank my parents and people just like them who benefitted so heavily from the spending of the last government.

    If we'd had a cross government comittment to energy research, we could be leading the world again, creating highly skilled profitable jobs, reducing the energy cost for end users, which would surely benefit not just the poorest of our society, but globally too.

    Instead its India at the moment who are doing some of the most interesting research with some solid reactor experiments. Not to mention the ideas of thorium which have never recived funding to be investigated fully.

    So ultimately that is what annoys me, the tories just don't want to spend a penny, which is kinda fair, we've not got any at the moment, but the fact the last 15 years we've had plans to decomission Didcot-A but no replacement. I know most labour politicions are unable to grasp supply and demand but to spend all this money on white elephant projects, whilst neglected the simple honest truths just sickens me.
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    Re: Wind Farms and Hot Air

    /\ dead good, well reasoned Animus post.

    I think that wind farms, or at least single turbines, SHOULD be available to farmers to run milking farm machines etc, because as you say, frankly they're beautiful, not ugly. But as they need subsidising, it's a tricky balance on their real cost effectiveness, needing maintenance etc. They are now efficient enough that the CO2 from the creation of the CONCRETE for their foundation is now acceptably part of their CO2 payback calculation, which is did'nt used to be, but it's still not enough for our entire nation to have them everywhere..... which brings you to decommissioning Didcot and and having nowt to replace it. Which is nearly as silly as building thousands of new houses without having mains water supplies for the current house levels in summer every year.

    Solar: on your roof. Like my dad's got too. Which runs straight to earth, because the electricity company refuses to install a 2 way meter to allow it back into the grid. I guess you're parents are similar. Being paid for electricity they create, and use at the same time... AND if they don't use it... it goes to earth, not to the grid and they still get paid.

    Someone really needs their head cutting off for not enforcing our ever-so-poor energy companies installing two way meters when needs.

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