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    £110 for Periodontology assesment...crazy money?

    Is that crazy money for what will probably be a 30min appointment? Only been to dentist and orthodontist before, not one of these gum specialists.

    I guess it's tough work, that 2nd yacht isn't going to buy itself

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    Re: £110 for Periodontology assesment...crazy money?

    Compare that with a solicitors fees.

    Then look at the investment in equipment, and the training it takers to become a dentist (at least 5 years plus training to become a specialist) and the ongoing costs of running a practice.

    (But I'll do it for you for £20! - but I should warn you that I'm not qualified for dentistry,)
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    Re: £110 for Periodontology assesment...crazy money?

    I'll be happy if it's the standard price nationwide, just can't tell if that's reasonable

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    Re: £110 for Periodontology assesment...crazy money?

    Technically,a dentist is surgeon so you need to consider that aspect.

    Having said,dental care is actually quite expensive in the UK,and the provision of subsidised dental care is quite limited,ie,it is quite hard to find a NHS funded dental pratice.

    Its probably why a lot of people don't visit the dentist regularly,and probably explains the trend in dental tourism for major work.

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    Re: £110 for Periodontology assesment...crazy money?

    Don't know if this will be any help

    http://www.dentalcentres.co.uk/dentist-fees-nhs.php

    Or if you fancy a trip to Budapest

    http://www.vitaleurope.co.uk/?gclid=...FXHLtAodxm0AiA

    Or another clinic

    http://www.bdental.co.uk/fees

    You might want to ask what is included in the initial examination, it may include X-rays.
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    Re: £110 for Periodontology assesment...crazy money?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcos View Post
    I'll be happy if it's the standard price nationwide, just can't tell if that's reasonable
    Depends what you get for your money, I suppose.

    30mins of someone looking in your mouth and umming and ahhing like a plumber, then sending you off with a bottle of mouth wash, probably isnt reasonable value.

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    Re: £110 for Periodontology assesment...crazy money?

    Quote Originally Posted by BobF64 View Post
    Depends what you get for your money, I suppose.

    30mins of someone looking in your mouth and umming and ahhing like a plumber, then sending you off with a bottle of mouth wash, probably isnt reasonable value.
    The cost is in the examination, not the treatment! Bit like an MoT - you pay the fee whether the car passes or fails! In this case the fee is examine the gums and determine if treatment is required, and the what is appropriate if it is required.
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    Re: £110 for Periodontology assesment...crazy money?

    Good grief, £110 just to look? thats verging on criminal.

    Although, if non-NHS, it wouldnt surprise me.

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    Re: £110 for Periodontology assesment...crazy money?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcos View Post
    Is that crazy money for what will probably be a 30min appointment? Only been to dentist and orthodontist before, not one of these gum specialists.

    I guess it's tough work, that 2nd yacht isn't going to buy itself
    The answer to your question is that while it very much depends on exactly what you're being quoted for, and by whom, and even where, it's not out of the ballpark.

    A basic assessment (BPE) is a fairly superficial assessment, and is often done by a hygenist as part of a cleaning, and reviewed by a dentist. but a full assessment by a specialist is a different prospect. Just like, 10 minutes for a quick check with the practice nurse at your GP is a bit different from a full consultation with a cardiac surgeon.

    I asked a dentist friend about this £110 fee, and his comment was, in short, "not surprised, I've seen higher, including £200."

    Remember, it's a time-intensive process from a qualified expert than can only charge his time once. He's also in business, not simply out to provide a social service at the lowest cost, so if he can fill his time, he's likely to charge what the market will bear, and if one patient won't pay it, another will.

    And, as long as it's a fixed fee not a charge per unit of time, then it's probably averaged to cover a simple case that takes 20 minutes and a more problematic one that takes an hour, because they can't know what they'll find until they start looking. And according to my dentist friend, it can sometimes take an hour.

    So, be sure what you're getting for your £110, what's included and what isn't, but the overall comment is .... it's not out of the norm.

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    Re: £110 for Periodontology assesment...crazy money?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcos View Post
    Is that crazy money for what will probably be a 30min appointment? Only been to dentist and orthodontist before, not one of these gum specialists.

    I guess it's tough work, that 2nd yacht isn't going to buy itself
    Quote Originally Posted by BobF64 View Post
    Good grief, £110 just to look? thats verging on criminal.

    Although, if non-NHS, it wouldnt surprise me.
    I have to say £110 is about the norm. The money you were paying for is for someone who is extensively and expensively trained in helping to manage for your gums. He/She probably gave you the diagnosis and some instructions on how to best manage your gums.

    Also, you have to think about if your gums are that bad, what are the alternatives? If your gums are bad, its only a matter of time until the teeth become loose, and once they are loose, theres not much that can be done unless extraction.
    And if you wanted the gaps filled, your talking either:
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    Teeth are precious things and once lost they are impossible to replicate with any type of prosthesis.

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    Re: £110 for Periodontology assesment...crazy money?

    Thanks for feedback, as long as it's ~norm, thats ok. Have booked appointment.


    I'm due for some major trouble in the teeth area sooner or later as I was rubbish at taking care of my teeth when I was younger. And recently had inflamed gums.

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    Re: £110 for Periodontology assesment...crazy money?

    Hope you get it sorted, without too much pain in your mouth or your wallet!

    (Speaking as someone whose last visit to the dentist was about £450 - pity there isn't a gleaming smiley!)
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    Re: £110 for Periodontology assesment...crazy money?

    Quote Originally Posted by Marcos View Post
    Thanks for feedback, as long as it's ~norm, thats ok. Have booked appointment.


    I'm due for some major trouble in the teeth area sooner or later as I was rubbish at taking care of my teeth when I was younger. And recently had inflamed gums.
    I went to a guy in Solihull who was recommended, BUPA based - he's not cheap, but he is VERY good (you have to be referred though, and existing patients can do that).

    I used to smoke, for around 11 years, usual bleeding gums after I gave up years ago - really really bad - I would bite a sandwich and the bread would be red

    Two significant sessions (around 2hrs each) with 24 injections was £1,300. I now have to go every 6 months, for a check up and clean, £135 a time.

    But I don't need any other dental work at all. Get this right and it makes a MASSIVE difference to you and your life... Don't avoid it if you have similar symptoms.
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    Re: £110 for Periodontology assesment...crazy money?

    well just walk into the emergency dentist and he'll tell you if theres anything wrong .. then get him to sort it ..
    really hate paying £50-200 for a tooth or a filling .. fook me not like there going to last forever ...girl in our work payed £1500 for caps and teeth sorting out .. 2 caps came off within 3 weeks .. it's all supply and demand .. and fleeceing the nhs and you ..
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    Re: £110 for Periodontology assesment...crazy money?

    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    I went to a guy in Solihull who was recommended, BUPA based - he's not cheap, but he is VERY good (you have to be referred though, and existing patients can do that).

    I used to smoke, for around 11 years, usual bleeding gums after I gave up years ago - really really bad - I would bite a sandwich and the bread would be red

    Two significant sessions (around 2hrs each) with 24 injections was £1,300. I now have to go every 6 months, for a check up and clean, £135 a time.

    But I don't need any other dental work at all. Get this right and it makes a MASSIVE difference to you and your life... Don't avoid it if you have similar symptoms.
    Not sure i fully agree with you. My thoughts are that if i have cleaned an area extensively and then after that they are brushing and flossing well, i will only need to do a very minor clean (normally the back of the lower front teeth) because the patient themselves are doing all the hard work for me by brushing and flossing well.
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    Re: £110 for Periodontology assesment...crazy money?

    Quote Originally Posted by flearider View Post
    well just walk into the emergency dentist and he'll tell you if theres anything wrong .. then get him to sort it ..
    really hate paying £50-200 for a tooth or a filling .. fook me not like there going to last forever ...girl in our work payed £1500 for caps and teeth sorting out .. 2 caps came off within 3 weeks .. it's all supply and demand .. and fleeceing the nhs and you ..
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