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    Engineering Cockup - The victoria line.

    http://usvsth3m.com/post/74285062011...e-is-currently

    So long story short, they accidentally poured fast setting concrete into a switching room..... Eep.

    This is going to be a funny one. I wonder how much redundancy they build into these systems. I've always disliked the fact railways seldom embrace packet switching.
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    Re: Engineering Cockup - The victoria line.

    They are trying to get it out asap
    I bet they are, what is the drying time of this stuff? Does that 2nd pic show a hole in the wall where maybe that stuff got into the room by accident or did they actually mean to fill it?

    EDIT: Read on Giz that it "ended up far from where it was meant to"
    I guess it's just poured through some empty spaces and ended up in there, oops!
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    Re: Engineering Cockup - The victoria line.

    Yeah they need to get sheeting or whatever they can asap to block it off from the switching kit.

    Doesn't matter if it's half in the room, let that be tomorrows problem.
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    Re: Engineering Cockup - The victoria line.

    Flooding : )

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    Re: Engineering Cockup - The victoria line.

    Quote Originally Posted by OilSheikh View Post
    Flooding : )
    well yes, but just with really free flowing rapid-hardening concrete. Sets like err concrete. As cock ups go this beats those guys piling through into the overground tunnel the other month. Man this is going to take yonks to get it out. That stuff sets in a few hours. By 24 hours it is seriously hard and the longer it goes on the harder it gets. And when it's wet it's corrosive to your skin and can cause burns. The wrong kinds of mix use an aluminium compound that can even cause release of hydrogen gas. And we all know how much that loves being around things that can spark. Things like relay switches.... oh.

    Yep we're only in January but already this is a strong contender for cock-up of the year. Were it not so amazingly tragic and inconvenient to my journeying it would be funny. But now my commute will be far longer and all other lines far more crowded. Sigh.

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    Re: Engineering Cockup - The victoria line.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    I've always disliked the fact railways seldom embrace packet switching.
    That's not true. As I hear on a daily basis "items left unattended may be removed and destroyed without warning" . Sounds like packet switching to me. Thinking about it this could be why Royal Mail stopped using their underground line - and why so many parcels used to go AWOL.

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    Re: Engineering Cockup - The victoria line.

    And the equipment looks quite old, so replacing the damaged stuff like-for-like or just swap out might not be possible - so it may need to be replaced with custom engineered relay replacement modules (which will need extensive testing) or there may be a decision to update it with more modern signalling equipment (more time, more testing).

    This could er... run on and on - unlike the Victoria line - for some time.
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    Re: Engineering Cockup - The victoria line.

    Worrying how there's zero redundancy outside that room for critical safety equipment. In an ideal world you should be able to take out the main signalling controls, and have backup equipment in place that can take over.

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    Re: Engineering Cockup - The victoria line.

    no one checked for holes 1st?

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    Re: Engineering Cockup - The victoria line.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoNz0 View Post
    no one checked for holes 1st?

    plonkers.
    According to the BBC their remit was to "fill voids". It's more of a job half-done.

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    Re: Engineering Cockup - The victoria line.

    And not really an engineering cock-up, I doubt any engineers were involved in the pouring, more likely a contractor error or lack of supervision/adequate survey.

    But I see initial reports and prophecies of doom and gloom (including my own) have been overblown, and Londoners can now get back to the deep joy of their daily subterranean commute and the Victoria line lives to fail another day.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...nt-damage.html
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    Re: Engineering Cockup - The victoria line.

    Quote Originally Posted by jim View Post
    According to the BBC their remit was to "fill voids". It's more of a job half-done.
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    Re: Engineering Cockup - The victoria line.

    Isn't this a standard solution though? They pour grout into road voids all the time and it's pretty unpredictable how deep the rabbit hole goes or where the liquid solution will alight. They got unlucky this time but who cares it's only London nowhere else enjoys an underground system of convenient transportation.

    Besides, how long was it down for...a day? My word, how inconvenient. Stop moaning TA you ride a bike anyway .

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    Re: Engineering Cockup - The victoria line.

    I'm not moaning, I find this really rather amusing!

    (also most capital cities enjoy an underground mass transit system, of course we were first)
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    Re: Engineering Cockup - The victoria line.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAnimus View Post
    I'm not moaning, I find this really rather amusing!

    (also most capital cities enjoy an underground mass transit system, of course we were first)
    Really? You sure about that?

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    Re: Engineering Cockup - The victoria line.

    Quote Originally Posted by ik9000 View Post
    Really? You sure about that?
    I can't say whether he thinks its amusing or not, but if you mean sure about being first, then yes, it was. Paddington - farringdon opened before any other metro system, underground or otherwise.

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