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Parking Ticket - Grrr
Hey guys,
Need some advice, I park at my gym (they have section within a bigger car park) and ask people to display a sign when using the car park. It's a about A5 in size, a bit big, so I usually put it in on the dash when im there...they have MET parking folks checking often.
Only went and forgot to stick it up there.
Came back and MET parking are asking for 100 quid (60 in 14 days). Told the gym I forgot to stick it up, but they weren't really much help. So i'm annoyed.
1. I'm a member of that gym
2. I visit the gym usually 5 days a week. There only about 2 guys who do these checks, so I'm sure they've seen my car before, every damn evening with the sign up.
3. They marked my number plate WRONG on the ticket. I'm not just talking one of two letters. Pretty much all of it. The only thing that resembles my car, is that it says BMW.
Ok my fault for not sticking up my sign (i've tapped it up now, even though it is overly sized). But if they've got my REG wrong, shall I just leave this?! they say pictures will be up in 72 hours...but surely this can't come back to me with much now can they...anyone can take pics of my car, but they've served me something incorrect.
I just feel like ignoring it. Any one had something similar happen?
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http://www.parkingcowboys.co.uk/mcdo...arking-ticket/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/arti...n-private-land
The main one you want: http://www.pepipoo.com/
They rarely result in any action, but they can try to take you to court. Only the court can decide on if the 'fine' is valid or not.
Given the registration being wrong, it can't see them getting far with it. If you want to go through the process - that's your call.
They have no power. They are not the police, nor a court.
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When I got a new car, I forgot to put my parking permit in it for the car park at my flats. I received a ticket, but after a bit of investigation online (particular Money Saving Expert), I ignored it. I found the types of letters I would get (parking company, debt collector 1, debt collector 2 with the same signature but different gender as debt company 1!) and received them as such. After about 6 months and them lowering the costs each time towards the end, they stopped.
IANAL, but the fact that it is private land and is issued by a private company means you can usually safely ignore them most of the time, but there are certainly exceptions. However, in your case there are two things that will mean nothing will come of it.
1. No money lost. I believe this is one of the key things when trying to go to court. The fact you have a permit means that the private land owner has no costs and therefore wouldn't be able to chase you for anything.
2. If they've recorded the wrong Reg Number, they'll get the wrong address from the DVLA (which costs them money everytime they make an address enquiry, so you can feel smug about them losing money!), so you won't get any letters anyway.
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Ignoring is no longer the best advice! Check the latest on pepipoo for the best way to handle it. Obviously, don't pay the con men.
On my most recent trip to the UK I acquired a one from the ParkingEye scammers. It would have been fine, except it was a rental car. Hertz paid them without my authorization and in breach of the rental agreement, and tagged on 50GBP in a second breach (They pay the scammers so they can profit though this charge). Naturally, my credit card company swiftly reversed the charge. Research, get on top of it, and make sure it costs them money through POPLA! Never pay a private parking scam, and don't use Hertz for rentals!
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Thanks for the replies guys.
in this case, i will ignore it - due to MET parking being pretty incompetent.
The evidence is online now, and its not even my car (mine is parked next to it, i can see from the alloy wheel)
He's just gone and slapped it on mine and wrote BMW on the ticket also.
Confused.com
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Yup. Ignore it.
I've had Parking Fine for parking in a disabled bay (I know I know...) was in abd out 5 mins and ticket on my windscreen.
Like others, checked Money Saving Expert, most folk who rec'd ticket in a Tesco, Asda or Sainsburys car park pretty much ignored it as they cant enforce it.
Pretty much same idea, only those that can are Council enforced, for Scotland anyways. Police can force your car to be removed i.e. if its an obstruction but thats in rare cases.
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Macman
Yup. Ignore it.
I've had Parking Fine for parking in a disabled bay (I know I know...) was in abd out 5 mins and ticket on my windscreen.
Like others, checked Money Saving Expert, most folk who rec'd ticket in a Tesco, Asda or Sainsburys car park pretty much ignored it as they cant enforce it.
Pretty much same idea, only those that can are Council enforced, for Scotland anyways. Police can force your car to be removed i.e. if its an obstruction but thats in rare cases.
Parking in disabled bays isn't really a problem if it's a council operated car park. Just write back citing discrimination and they'll never bother you again.
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abaxas
Parking in disabled bays isn't really a problem if it's a council operated car park. Just write back citing discrimination and they'll never bother you again.
Or you know, just not park in the disabled bay, its for those with disabilities. Thats one of the things that really, really grinds my gears :@.
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abaxas
Parking in disabled bays isn't really a problem if it's a council operated car park. Just write back citing discrimination and they'll never bother you again.
I'm with Guy on this, thats the lowest of the low things to do. Disabled bays are there to allow people with disabilities easier access to amenities, not lazy idiots who cant be arsed walk 5 meters more.
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If you really breached it just send them a letter with £2 stuck to it with cellotape to cover any costs they incurred sending you a letter. In the letter ask for a breakdown of the costs they incurred that warrants a £100 fine. That should usually be the end of it.
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What would happen if they are clamping your car (as happened to me in a Sheperds Bush Housing Association park), or threatening to (as happened to me in a McDonalds car park)?
not that I have a car any more, but I'd far rather be paying the local council my money than a bunch of script clamp cowboys with van(s)
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they are not `fines` if the invoice you received says the word fine then its very illegal on police employed traffic wardens (non exist now) can issue a fine
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MaddAussie
I'm with Guy on this, thats the lowest of the low things to do. Disabled bays are there to allow people with disabilities easier access to amenities, not lazy idiots who cant be arsed walk 5 meters more.
There are over 2.5 million blue badge holders in the UK. Are you seriously telling me that 4% of all humans are disabled?
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abaxas
There are over 2.5 million blue badge holders in the UK. Are you seriously telling me that 4% of all humans are disabled?
Not everyone with a disability holds a blue badge, some people simply don't apply, or don't have access to a car so have no need or are simply not eligible for some reason, so I would expect the actual figure to be somewhat higher. However that's irrelevant to me, the one blue badge holder that matters most to me is my mother and if someone parks in an inconsiderate way that causes additional pain and discomfort to my mother I would want them to have their car towed and stuck in a pound, wheel clamps are just letting people off too lightly and do nothing to help a blue badge holder get into the illegally occupied parking space.
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AND I will stand in front of the car as it attempts to park in the disabled space and argue until they back off or fight me
You HAVE to experience the hell of shopping for a disabled person to know why EVERY SPACE IS VITAL... and you must NEVER EVER park in a disabled space if you're not disabled.
ever......
for some disabled, just getting to the car, with shopping bags, driving to the shops and getting out takes DAYS OF PLANNING... Imagibe the terror of driving to the shops for the one chance this fortnight... and not being able to shop and having to drive home with nothing.. and spending ther next 3 hours getting back indoors.
Think I'm making it up?
I'm not....it's hell.
Park as FAR from the door as you can, and walk.. it'll do you good.. AND you get to see if my other theory in right.. that people park near you no matter where you park ;)
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Zak33
you must NEVER EVER park in a disabled space if you're not disabled.
And must not leave the badge holder in the car if you do park in one.
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Zak33
Park as FAR from the door as you can, and walk.. it'll do you good.. AND you get to see if my other theory in right.. that people park near you no matter where you park ;)
I do this anyway....
Mainly because parkings easier and I can't be bothered with the 2 minute faff to find that one spot closer to the door.
Who cares that I have to walk an extra minute or two - life was made easier for me by taking the furthest option.
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Up until 10 years ago when I had my hip replaced I had a blue badge, on a very bad day I struggled to walk more than 50 meters without being in agony. I used to plan every trip to minimise the distance I had to walk. So Saracen is right every disabled space is vital. Now luckily I don't need the badge so I haven't had one for 9 years but it doesn't stop me getting enraged at stupid inconsiderate people who really should know better.
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I generally park away from the entrances because I have a theory that people who make a habit of avoiding 30 seconds of walking are lazy, the kind of lazy people who park badly, slam a trolley into your car etc.
I have no evidence of this.
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TheAnimus
I generally park away from the entrances because I have a theory that people who make a habit of avoiding 30 seconds of walking are lazy, the kind of lazy people who park badly, slam a trolley into your car etc.
I have no evidence of this.
Generally, based on my own observations, 'people' will be incredibly lazy in car parking. In my town there is a central car park which has the first hour free. There are a few other paid for places and a super market car park which are all less than five minutes away from the town centre. Visitors arriving in cars to that central car park will not use one of the others if it's full - they'd rather drive to another town where they can park close to the shops.
Same principle as beaches in the UK - most people are closest to the entrance to the car park, cheek by jowl, because their laziness exceeds their discomfort of being close to other sweaty, cream covered, white and wobbling human bodies.
I walk five or ten minutes before laying out my towel and watching my wife/children enjoy freezing themselves in the water as it's got to be Mediterranean temperature to get me in!
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Just had a rethink on this...
2.5 million blue badges
30 million cars on our roads.
Sorry, for the people in need, but I'm not willing to have the micky taken out of me.
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Not all of those 2.5 million will have cars. A lot of disabled people will have the badge for when they go in other peoples' cars, which is a legitimate thing, in my book...
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Originally Posted by
abaxas
Just had a rethink on this...
2.5 million blue badges
30 million cars on our roads.
Sorry, for the people in need, but I'm not willing to have the micky taken out of me.
Good job the majority of the other 27,499,999 car owners/drivers don't think the same way.
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I find it hard to believe that you actually think ~ 4% of the population has a disability that needs a blue badge?
Are 1 in 25 people actually that disabled? I call it BS.
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abaxas
I find it hard to believe that you actually think ~ 4% of the population has a disability that needs a blue badge?
Are 1 in 25 people actually that disabled? I call it BS.
What are you basing your BS call on? Any stats / evidence to backup your thought process?
4% is low. Very low. A lot are also temporary.
The badges cover everything from people who are recovering from an operation and have mobility issues, through to permanent physical disabilities, and even mental disabilities.
Getting a blue badge is not easy. I know several people who have them and come renewal, they are all worried.
edit - talking about stats, here are a few: http://www.efds.co.uk/resources/facts_and_statistics
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There are 9.4 million disabled people in England, accounting for 18 per cent of the population
Going off that, only ~26% of all the disabled people in the country claim a blue badge.
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The prevalence rate of disability rises with age − around 1 in 20 children are disabled
1 in 20 is 5%. When you compare that against 4% of the population claiming a blue badge, and realising that...
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Only 17 per cent of disabled people were born with disabilities. The majority acquire their disability during their working lives.
That 4% figure all of a sudden looks quite small IMO.
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Sorry, but I also call the 18% of the population are disabled, BS.
The government also disagrees.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...112-apr-to-mar
And we all know that number is currently reducing due to re-assement.
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abaxas
Are you even reading what you're linking? That document backs up the figure exactly.
The PDF from what you linked: https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...prevalence.pdf
A direct quotation:
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Disability prevalence estimates 2011/12
The Office for Disability Issues has updated Department for Work and Pensions estimates which show there are 11.6 million disabled people in Great Britain, of whom 5.7 million are adults of working age, 5.1 million are over state pension age and 0.8 million are children.
The ONS gave the population as ~ 63.7 million people: http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/pop-es...012/index.html
11.6m / 63.7m * 100 = 18.21036106750392% of the population was disabled according to government stats.
If you look at what that number includes:
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This estimate covers the number of people with a longstanding illness, disability or infirmity, and who have a significant difficulty with day-to-day activities
This isn't even including people who have temporary issues, or none serious but might need a blue badge.
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Ermm, read the doc.
6.5 Million people have a disability that may count towards a blue badge.
Unless you are now saying that incontinence means you should get a blue badge? I would think tennalady / man equivalent should suffice instead.
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abaxas
Ermm, read the doc.
I have, and I've presented figures to you from it.
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Sorry, but I also call the 18% of the population are disabled, BS.
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The government also disagrees.
I do not seen any evidence of this in the document. Only the opposite - could you quote which bit you're referring to?
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abaxas
6.5 Million people have a disability that may count towards a blue badge.
Where are you getting this figure from?
The only time 6.5M is mentioned is regarding a mobility disability. I can't find any mention of blue badges in the document you've linked, or anything directly from the web page either.
I'm really hoping you're not just dismissing every other disability as being appropriate for a blue badge unless it's mobility based - but if you are, please be clear and state that. Otherwise I'd be curious to know where that's from.
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abaxas
Unless you are now saying that incontinence means you should get a blue badge?
I've not even hinted at what I think should be allowed and what shouldn't, so how you've picked a specific medical condition out and are spinning the "Unless you are now saying..." argument with it, I've no idea.
My opinion on who should be allowed them is very simple: It's down to a qualified medical professional to decide.
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abaxas
I would think tennalady / man equivalent should suffice instead.
I think i'd prefer to hear from a medical professional personally and let them decide. Given how many years of training they have, along with experience, I'm thinking that's a safer bet.
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abaxas
I find it hard to believe that you actually think ~ 4% of the population has a disability that needs a blue badge?
Are 1 in 25 people actually that disabled? I call it BS.
Irrelevant if you are taking up a parking space which a genuinely disabled person needs. You aren't in a position to say whether the person you are depriving the space from is genuine or not.
