Someone just slap him already.
Originally Posted by Agent
nichomach (03-12-2014)
He is setting up a huge straw man in the immigrant-benefits-scroungers argument, ready to knock down in a big cynical points scoring exercise. They're not a significant problem in the first place. Sure it is a problem and something should be done, but it isn't THE issue.
The significant problem is the sheer number of legal immigrants, and he keeps skirting around the edges of what he is going to do about that. Leave Europe...? Yes or no?
The people who are ALREADY HERE don't want a big flood of new people coming in. The country is already overpopulated. Everywhere I look I see new 'developments' destroying the countryside in order to house more and more people. I call enough, Cameron isn't.
Maybe I should run for office! I have been yelling this for a long time and Dave ol boy and his merry band of misfits have only realized this ? And, Dave , I don't believe a word you are saying. You said you would do this n that before you came to power. Why are you now saying you are going to do those same things if you come to power again? What have you been doing for the last 5 years? I will only vote for you if you implement those changes NOW.
There is absolutely nothing stopping each and every single person from each and every East European country from moving to our country tomorrow! And, this means millions of people .. Romania itself has 20m people!
I am shocked to hear that £700 of the taxpayer's money is used to fund every East European every month!
Not only do they not know English but they are low skilled and refuse to integrate with communities in our cities. They form their own mini-communities and are racist towards people from other cultures.
They are entitled to council houses as soon as they enter our country??!
Schools get flooded with their kids, who obviously don't know a word of English. How are teachers meant to conduct regular lessons?
Our strecthed NHS will also be hammered by these new lot.
Crime has also gone up with human trafficking aka prostitution is one of the key businesses.
They don't pay taxes or NI and send all their money to their countries. e.g. plumbers and painters who only deal in cash.
London is full of East European beggars and rough sleepers.
Asian communities for example can only be found in parts of the country but East Europeans are flooding every nook and corner including remote village areas.
You may argue that immigrants from the rest of the world need to be handled first, but they are not entitled to any benefits as it's clearly mentioned on their visas.
We need to
- find and deport all the illegal immigrants from rest of the world that are already here
- employers should be forced to advertise jobs in our country via Jobcentre first and then only advertise to East Europe when they cannot find a local employee. East Europeans must have a job offer and come here via a work permit.
The most difficult part would be how to kick out the ones already here...
You need to change your daily newspaper OilSheikh.
Is it just me or does anyone else find it difficult to listen to interviews/Q&A time with politicians when it becomes obvious they aren't going to answer a single question directly but rather evade them all and just repeat themselves endlessly?
This Christmas what I'd really like is one year of honest, straight-talking politics, or one decade if we'd like to get something done.
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LibLabCon are all a bunch of liars.
Most aren't outright liars. (Getting caught) telling lies gets you in trouble, saying nothing but with a lot sound and fury wins votes. Trouble is UKIP are saying very specifically what a lot of people want to hear and nobody else really wants to talk about.
No, it certainly isn't just you. It might conceivably be just us two, but if I had to bet on it, I'd take a punt on it being about 99.9999% of the population that aren't politicians themselves.
I'm not sure who I blame, though. I mean, a LOT of TV talking heads (and Newsnight are among the very worst) continuously asked loaded questions clearly trying to put words in the interviewee's mouth. It is blindingly obvious that their agenda is not get get an interview, but to get some juicy remark that'll hit the morning papers or news agenda, even if it means wilfully misunderstanding what the interview subject said. I mean, again and again, I've seen a politician make a remark, and the 'journalist' say "you mean .... " and come up with some rollocks that's the polar opposite of what they were just told. Can the likes of Warck and Maitless really be that stupid? Because they either are complete morons, or it's a deliberate attempt to 'entrap' a careless politician into an unguarded remark.
So .... do politicians always dodge questions because of loaded 'minefield' interviewers out to trick them, or are interviewers asking loaded questions because otherwise, politicians never give an answer that's even interesting, let alone useful or straight?
Which is the chicken, and which the egg?
I don't know. I just know it regularly drives me up the wall listening to the verbal gymnastics from both sides. What's more, it's as if both sides are blissfully ignorant of the fact that it's not a private conversation between them, but potentially millions of people are actually wanting to hear the answers, NOT to get patronising evasions from politicians, and certainly NOT to listen to constant interruptions from idiot presenters that are far too fond of the sound of their own voices and seem to like making mini-speeches, not asking succinct questions. And yes, Warck and Maitless (et.al.) I most certainly do mean you.
Agreed.
As are UKIP and the Green party. If you can name any more, they are liars as well.
Blame the idiots that vote them in
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