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    Qatar World Cup - Helping Hand into Modernity or Easy (& Dirty) Money for FIFA?

    A recent BBC article tells the story of a BBC crew who were arrested, imprisoned, told they couldn't leave the country and now, having been released, still haven't received back their property which was confiscated.

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    "We were invited to Qatar by the prime minister's office to see new flagship accommodation for low-paid migrant workers in early May - but while gathering additional material for our report, we ended up being thrown into prison for doing our jobs.

    A dozen security officers frisked us in the street, shouting at us when we tried to talk. They took away our equipment and hard drives and drove us to their headquarters.

    We were never accused of anything directly, instead they asked over and over what we had done and who we had met.

    An hour into my grilling, one of the interrogators brought out a paper folder of photographs which proved they had been trailing me in cars and on foot for two days since the moment I'd arrived. I was shown pictures of myself and the team standing in the street, at a coffee shop, on board a bus and even lying next to a swimming pool with friends. It was a shock. I had never suspected I was being tailed.

    In perfect English and with more than a touch of malice, he threatened us with another four days in prison - to teach us a lesson.
    I began my second night in prison on a disgusting soiled mattress. At least we did not go hungry, as we had the previous day. One of the guards took pity on us and sent out for roast chicken with rice.
    In the early hours of the next morning, just as suddenly as we were arrested, we were released.
    Bizarrely, we were allowed to join the organised press trip for which we had come.
    It was as if nothing had happened, despite the fact that our kit was still impounded, and we were banned from leaving the country.
    I can only report on what has happened now that our travel ban has been lifted.
    No charges were brought, but our belongings have still not been returned.

    Other journalists and activists, including a German TV crew, have also recently been detained.
    How the country handles the media, as it prepares to host one of the world's most watched sporting events, is now also becoming a concern.
    Mustafa Qadri, Amnesty International's Gulf migrant rights researcher, told us the detentions of journalists and activists could be attempts "to intimidate those who seek to expose labour abuse in Qatar".
    Qatar, the world's richest country for its population size of little more than two million people, is pouring money into trying to improve its reputation for allowing poor living standards for low-skilled workers to persist.

    Before we were detained, I met an 18-year-old mechanic, one of the 400,000 Nepalese workers there.
    He said he wanted to support his older brothers because his father had died and the family was struggling financially.
    He paid a recruitment agency in Nepal $600 to arrange his visa to work in Qatar and was told he would earn $300 a month.
    When he arrived he was told his salary, as a labour camp cleaner for air conditioning mechanics, was in fact $165 a month. He said he has never been given a copy of the contract he signed. Worse still, he said he could not understand it as it was in English.
    It's a very common trick that foreign recruitment agents play before workers even get to Qatar, and very difficult for Qatar itself to police, although it says it is trying."

    So is this a good thing because Qatar's exposure to the 'international world' will force Qatar to 'modernise' or is this just a case of Qatari leadership and FIFA coming together to get even more loaded? And should large sporting organisations like FIFA, UEFA, the Olympic Committee, and other leagues and orgs work with nations who aren't exactly 'above board' in their dealings - e.g. China, Cuba etc.?

    Personally, I think it's about the money. I think there are possible benefits to this, but I don't think those benefits will be the lasting legacy of this event. I think someone's fat bank account will be.
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    Re: Qatar World Cup - Helping Hand into Modernity or Easy (& Dirty) Money for FIFA?

    FIFA: For the love of Money the game

    *Anyone know how to get strikethrough?
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    Re: Qatar World Cup - Helping Hand into Modernity or Easy (& Dirty) Money for FIFA?

    I have a friend who has to go to SA on a regular basis for his job......he has been talking about the place being effectively a slave state for a while, it seems that the World Cup has caused the issue to be brought to the forefront again and the country seems to be trying a rather odd damage limitation exercise....
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    Re: Qatar World Cup - Helping Hand into Modernity or Easy (& Dirty) Money for FIFA?

    IMO, while sporting events may modernise physical infrastructures, it will do little to change social challenges. It might in the short term cause a country to dress up the issue for the press or censor it in this case, but once the event is over, it'll be business as usual unless there was a movement for change in the first place (independant from the sporting event). I am also under the impression that FIFA doesn;t let those kind of issues affect their decision to hold a World Cup.

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    Re: Qatar World Cup - Helping Hand into Modernity or Easy (& Dirty) Money for FIFA?

    It's all about the money. Qatar wanted it for a big publicity event to boost tourism and put it on the map and they paid big bucks to FIFA officials to get it. Win-win for the fat cats at the top. Nothing more to it imo.

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    Re: Qatar World Cup - Helping Hand into Modernity or Easy (& Dirty) Money for FIFA?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smudger View Post
    FIFA: For the love of [STRIKE]Money[/STRIKE] the game

    *Anyone know how to get strikethrough?
    Yes

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    Re: Qatar World Cup - Helping Hand into Modernity or Easy (& Dirty) Money for FIFA?

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    Re: Qatar World Cup - Helping Hand into Modernity or Easy (& Dirty) Money for FIFA?

    It's always about the money. IMO there should be a lot of countries refusing to take part but the world is not a pleasant place full of nice people who have each others best interests at heart.

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    Re: Qatar World Cup - Helping Hand into Modernity or Easy (& Dirty) Money for FIFA?

    Definitely the money, but as with all politicians they worry about the image they're projecting even if they don't care about the reality. So long as they *look* like they're doing something to help...

    Another good example today: http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32812288 Sounds like next to nothing useful was agreed, but Blatter gets a nice press shot releasing a dove so it's all OK. Who does he think he is...

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    Re: Qatar World Cup - Helping Hand into Modernity or Easy (& Dirty) Money for FIFA?

    http://edition.cnn.com/2015/05/27/fo...ent/index.html

    Wonder when the US will host the next World Cup after this

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    Re: Qatar World Cup - Helping Hand into Modernity or Easy (& Dirty) Money for FIFA?

    Quote Originally Posted by BBC
    "We were invited to Qatar by the prime minister's office to see new flagship accommodation for low-paid migrant workers in early May - but while gathering additional material for our report, we ended up being thrown into prison for doing our jobs.
    So they were invited to report on something specific, they are a bit light on what the "additional material" they were gathering was. Wonder if there were any terms or clauses as to what they were allowed to report on.

    Would be interesting to hear the story from both sides and not just the accounts of a BBC film crew, possibly snooping where they shouldn't have been.

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    Re: Qatar World Cup - Helping Hand into Modernity or Easy (& Dirty) Money for FIFA?

    Definitely the money; I reckon the best perspective on this is still John Oliver's - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DlJEt2KU33I

    The only people that accrue lasting benefits are FIFA and the people they pay off.

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    Re: Qatar World Cup - Helping Hand into Modernity or Easy (& Dirty) Money for FIFA?

    Blatter should resign at the very least.. Even if he hasn't been collared (yet!). Never trust a man in a double-breasted jacket I say. Glad FIFA is finally reaping what it sows.

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    Re: Qatar World Cup - Helping Hand into Modernity or Easy (& Dirty) Money for FIFA?

    Interestingly (or not), the charges from the US are stemming from activities that date back 20 years ago to present, and deals more with corruption involving the use of the US banking system, which gets the feds all worked up here. It's the Swiss that are going after FIFA for Qatar and Russia. At the rate they're going, there may only be 1 or 2 FIFA officials not in jail or on the lam by the time the Russian games roll around. If they roll around. Not going to get into the politics of things - not really the proper place for it, I don't think.

    But it was kind of fun watching Katty Kay (BBC America) correcting herself a few times during the broadcast this evening, calling the sport football and then changing it to soccer. (no, most Americans still won't call it football, because we sort of have our own sport with that name, which is a far larger financial machine than 'soccer' is.)
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