And that's why I won't "upgrade" to Win10 any time soon ;)

[g8ina]

Just scan thread headers.

I'll wait till it's sorted.

[Ttaskmaster]

It's free for a year, so I'll be waiting with you while more knowledgable folk do their thing!

.......Pub?

[Zak33]

sits with g8ina

[Saracen]

Two questions, IMHO.

1) Am I going to upgrade at all? If yes, see 2)

2) When?

I struggle to see good reason, in most home cases and almost all business cases, to hurry. And good reason not to.

About the only reason for most home users is "want it, and want it NOW!" And for some of our more sewer-minded, double-entrendre-aware, yes, I mean the Windows 10 upgrade.

So if you truly are desperate for it (work out your own meaning), upgrade now. If not, wait a few weeks, even months, and let the dust settle.

Me? Upgrading to, Ubuntu (etc) is more likely, TBH.

[Ttaskmaster]

And for some of our more sewer-minded, double-entrendre-aware, yes, I mean the Windows 10 upgrade.

I assume you're including me in that...
I'm allowed to be sewer-minded, though - I am actually a qualified sewer rehab technician!

If not, wait a few weeks, even months, and let the dust settle.

I thought part of the mess is because people are trying to clean-install what is supposed to be an upgrade, for starters...

Either way, I'll let the smart folks figure out what needs doing and then beg their help once they're able to do it flawlessly!

[GuidoLS]

I assume you're including me in that...
I'm allowed to be sewer-minded, though - I am actually a qualified sewer rehab technician!


I thought part of the mess is because people are trying to clean-install what is supposed to be an upgrade, for starters...

Either way, I'll let the smart folks figure out what needs doing and then beg their help once they're able to do it flawlessly!

I've done it flawlessly over a dozen times now. Something about the letters RTFM comes to mind - I think that acronym is fairly universal. Saracen has the right of it. If there's no need (and the only need I can think of is for those that want the gaming improvements coming down the road and those that need to program for those improvements), don't upgrade.

I've been dispensing that piece of advice far more than I expected to recently, and I get a lot of cross-eyed stares when I do. It's free. It's new. It's shiny. It's also unnecessary for most of the population. Oh well - I make $25 per install. The capitalist in me is probably very unhappy with the realist in me. I've turned away more than a little cash.

[DanceswithUnix]

My nearly teenage son wants Win10 for the Minecraft Win10 edition. I imagine there are millions of kids just like him all over the world. New = better. Perhaps I should upgrade him so he learns the hard way

[jag272]

Agreed, we have a whole 1 year window to upgrade free, no point in rushing into it until Microsoft fix it up, people have figured it out, and we see whether DX12 is actually as powerful as they say or just marketing hype for draw calls and nothing else.

[Jonj1611]

As usual its each to their own, and I think everyone deserves that respect.

I had a few issues which have been mainly sorted out, apart from on my laptop every other login I get a Critical Error : Start menu has failed. But apart from that all pc's/laptops are working fine and in some instances on one older laptop a lot quicker than it used to.

On the comment of people doing clean installs, what was actually happening was people were upgrading and then clean installing which was the way it was supposed to be done, but a problem with the generic key was causing a lot of problems in that regard.

Now I have used it for a bit I am very happy with it so far, things work well, not many if any unexpected errors outside the normal install, my Firestrike score is only 10 less than on the 8.1 system so drivers all seem ok, games run ok, all programs I have installed from Vue to Photoshop all work ok. Like the notifications and the new icon set.

Overall enjoying it so far.

[peterb]

"The pioneers get the arrows, the followers get the land"

I'm quite happy for the early adopters to carry on. But while I rarely say never, I can't see any reason to move away windows 7 now, next year, or the year after. And if Microsoft succeed in taking windows in the direction they appear to be heading, probably never.

[Saracen]

I assume you're including me in that...
I'm allowed to be sewer-minded, though - I am actually a qualified sewer rehab technician!

Well, if the cap fits .... and from that qualification, I'm guessing it does.

...

I thought part of the mess is because people are trying to clean-install what is supposed to be an upgrade, for starters ...

Well, apparently there have been some problems. But that wasn't what I was getting at. It was more a case of giving problems such as may occur time to occur, so why upgrade NOW?

I can't think of many situations where people need to upgrade straight away. Most people could upgrade now, or in a month, or 6 months, and have it not matter much.

Ironically, I'm one that does have a reason for upgrading now, that being for testing stuff that I need to know runs, and runs properly, under W10. I'm currently trying to decide whether to set up a test system solely for that purpose, or simply to decline requests for work involving Win10, but I'm certainly not upgrading any systems I actually use. In some areas, it might even be a convenient way to turn down some things I'd prefer to turn down anyway .... like people wanting system builds done. "Sorry sir, I only do Linux systems now" .... that ought to put most customers I'd rather not take right off. And if that doesn't work, I guess I can revert to my "only an idiot would pay that" fee scale.

[Sumanji]

VMWare + full screen mode... use it for non-intensive tasks like browsing, and to learn all the new foibles.

Makes it easier to make the jump when you're ready

[Saracen]

"The pioneers get the arrows, the followers get the land"

I'm quite happy for the early adopters to carry on. But while I rarely say never, I can't see any reason to move away windows 7 now, next year, or the year after. And if Microsoft succeed in taking windows in the direction they appear to be heading, probably never.

Good way to put it.

Similarly, I hesitate to say never, but I'm pretty close, unless MS either change direction, or explicitly clarify that they aren't heading in the direction they appear to be going.

Frankly, I currently feel I'm more like to give up computing entirely, and go off-grid entirely, than to upgrade to Win10. I don't think that's currently necessary, but it is a step I'm getting increasinly tempted by, and am markedly closer to than ever before.

Let me put it this way. I KNOW I could, if I had to, live my life in the future, without either a computer or an internet connection. There's nothing I have to do that says I have to have one. And I tested that a while back by, of necessity, going net-less for about two months. I really missed it for about a week, had a nagging emptiness for another week or two, and had a distinct sense of peace, of a quiet life, of a back to more genteel days, for the rest of the two months. It surprised me to find out, having been involved, to one extent or another and in one way or another, with computers since the mid 60's. Hell, half a century. No wonder I'm getting a bit jaded, and a quiet life of gardening, cooking, puttering about, reading books I've always meant to read, and doing a lot more listening to music, etc, sounds appealing. I'm even tempted to ditch the TV, or at least, TV broadcasts and just use it to watch DVDs. Pull into my little shell and let the world go to pot without having to watch it.

Makes me realise, do I give a flying fig what MS do? Actually, no, I don't.

[sqwerty]

Upgraded from an over 1 old year install of 8.1 to 10 and my only issues were related to Nvidia drivers (It had installed latest display driver but left old control panel) and Creative drivers (control panel not functioning). The first issue took me two minutes to fix and the second I can live without as everything audio wise is functioning fine through windows control panel. Having the creative one installed too would just be bloatware as I don't use crystaliser/cmss/eq preferring as untouched audio path as possible.

I honestly expected more problems but for me everything just works so far.

[Zak33]

Genius Marketing move No.1:

Buy Minecraft

Genius Marketing move No2:

Launch Minecraft Win10 Edition and spam the gaming world with it's awesomeness....targetting kids

Genius Marketing move No3:

Await the Win10 upgrade revolution driven by kids nagging clueless parents by their MILLION

[DanceswithUnix]

Genius Marketing move No.1:

Buy Minecraft

Genius Marketing move No2:

Launch Minecraft Win10 Edition and spam the gaming world with it's awesomeness....targetting kids

Genius Marketing move No3:

Await the Win10 upgrade revolution driven by kids nagging clueless parents by their MILLION

Still not managed to get my free copy of Minecraft W10 edition though, if that is common place it could generate a lot of hate because young kids are not exactly hot on patience