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    Re: Dear god.... it's espresso not expresso

    Maybe.

    What you're describing is linguistic prescription. It's the implication that there is a specific way of using language. Italian has a governing body, the Accademia della Crusca, who essentially define how the Italian language should be used. You're probably familiar with this concept from the French obsession with language purity. In French, one may not send an E-mail, it is a courrier électronique. Of course, everyone calls it email anyway, but it's officially wrong.

    English, on the other hand, has no governing body to decide what is right and what is wrong. As we all know, it is a 'bastard language', made up of words picked up from all over the place, including foreign words like the Italian 'Espresso'. The language is defined by what people do with it. If 'Expresso' is, or becomes, the English corruption of a word with Italian origins, it's still effective communication, and legitimate usage of English.

    That said, it would be nice to preserve those origins by calling an Italian drink by it's proper Italian name.

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    Re: Dear god.... it's espresso not expresso

    Well if we're going to go down this road I'll throw my pet hate in - you can't order 'a panini'. Panini is the plural of sandwiches in Italian - one/a panino, two panini. And because it's already plural 'paninis' makes no sense in any circumstances.

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    Re: Dear god.... it's espresso not expresso

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    Please... will everyone sort this out NOW!!!

    Major public rant inbound!


    espresso .......not expresso

    its' NOT fast.....

    it's coffee...

    its ESPRESSO,....


    please stop ANYONE you hear saying it wrong and educate them

    there is NO X in it....

    blood is boiling!!!
    I would just like to espress my full support for Zak's rant. It's a horrible espression, and I espect better of people, expecially when we have so many coffee esperts on this forum.


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    Re: Dear god.... it's espresso not expresso

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    I would just like to espress my full support for Zak's rant. It's a horrible espression, and I espect better of people, expecially when we have so many coffee esperts on this forum.

    Escellent...

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    Re: Dear god.... it's espresso not expresso

    Quote Originally Posted by TeePee View Post
    That said, it would be nice to preserve those origins by calling an Italian drink by it's proper Italian name.
    Just 'cafe' then?

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    Re: Dear god.... it's espresso not expresso

    Well, we do things different in Blighty. I mean people go in and order a 'latte' and we put coffee in it. Crazy folk.
    Grab that. Get that. Check it out. Bring that here. Grab anything useful. Take anything good.

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    Re: Dear god.... it's espresso not expresso

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    Re: Dear god.... it's espresso not expresso

    Quote Originally Posted by Spreadie View Post
    Their is no dout - I definantly should of ordered a expresso
    It's 'defiantly' nowadays, grandpa - Keep up!!

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    Re: Dear god.... it's espresso not expresso

    Quote Originally Posted by TeePee View Post
    English, on the other hand, has no governing body to decide what is right and what is wrong. As we all know, it is a 'bastard language', made up of words picked up from all over the place, including foreign words like the Italian 'Espresso'. The language is defined by what people do with it. If 'Expresso' is, or becomes, the English corruption of a word with Italian origins, it's still effective communication, and legitimate usage of English.

    That said, it would be nice to preserve those origins by calling an Italian drink by it's proper Italian name.
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    Re: Dear god.... it's espresso not expresso

    Quote Originally Posted by Spreadie View Post
    Their is no dout - I definantly should of ordered a expresso
    So....you shud of ordered a pacific drink and if it killed everthink and everyone you would of been surrounded by SKELLINGTONS

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    Re: Dear god.... it's espresso not expresso

    Quote Originally Posted by Lanky123 View Post
    Well if we're going to go down this road I'll throw my pet hate in - you can't order 'a panini'. Panini is the plural of sandwiches in Italian - one/a panino, two panini. And because it's already plural 'paninis' makes no sense in any circumstances.
    A panini, yesterday.


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    Re: Dear god.... it's espresso not expresso

    Quote Originally Posted by Smudger View Post
    A panini, yesterday.
    hurrah! Quite. 1 panino, 2 panini etc

    I think my god daughter is on expresso, as in fresh milk, taken from the source. I'm not sure about coffee shops in your part of town but round here that is definitely not offered. So yes, it is espresso and not expresso.

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    Re: Dear god.... it's espresso not expresso

    I don't feel the need to be so pacific about things like this.

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    Re: Dear god.... it's espresso not expresso

    Their wrong about they're spelling over there coffee.

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    Re: Dear god.... it's espresso not expresso

    Quote Originally Posted by Jonatron View Post
    Hilarious!

    Two things that also annoy me: use of the word 'triggered' to mean...err...annoyed, and people who say "the proof's in the pudding". It's NOT in the damn pudding, "the proof of the pudding is in the EATING"!

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    Re: Dear god.... it's espresso not expresso

    Just go for the nucular option! (grrrrrrrrrr)
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