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    Re: Todays society - snowflakes

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    Re: Todays society - snowflakes

    And now I want Ice Cream again....

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    Re: Todays society - snowflakes

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    The Tower Effigy Burning Scandal. Should the police be involved?
    No.

    Now to get back to the really important philosophical questions on ice cream.

    Gelato, ice cream or not?

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    Re: Todays society - snowflakes

    Re: the Grenfell Effigy.

    Are we forgetting about the culprits who signed off on the cladding...?

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    Re: Todays society - snowflakes

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    The Tower Effigy Burning Scandal. Should the police be involved?
    Depends....

    Was it sufficiently inciteful as to disturb public order?
    If so, then yes, as there's a crime somewhere in all of that, same as there is in public hate speeches and so on.

    Quote Originally Posted by philehidiot View Post
    What they did was utterly disgusting, posting it on the internet was downright stupid
    Was it?
    I hadn't heard about it myself so did a quick Google...

    One outraged poster's remark sprang to mind:
    "Effigies are for hate-figures not innocent victims of a national scandal"

    Sounds to me the tower (which was the effigy in this case, not the victims) represents numerous failings on the part of numerous entities, from the government right the way down... which would make this a political statement rather than a prank.

    "As the flames begin to set the model alight, bystanders can be heard shouting "Help me, help me," while one person mocks the stay-put policy of the London Fire Brigade, saying, "Don't worry, stay in your flat.""
    Yep, political statement, social commentary, or similar thing usually the work of students or Guardian-reading vegan activist types.

    I haven't seen the video itself, but all the responses of the high-profile responders (May, Khan, police chief Blah) all decrying this as a hate crime, just makes me think this began as a very pertinent and poignant statement that just really missed it's mark and got heavily misunderstood by most people... the fact that the 'pranksters' actually gave themselves up supports my perspective on that.
    I expect a statement of apology will be released, explaining it in similar way.

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    Re: Todays society - snowflakes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
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    One outraged poster's remark sprang to mind:
    "Effigies are for hate-figures not innocent victims of a national scandal".
    I wonder if that poster recognised the irony...
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    Re: Todays society - snowflakes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ttaskmaster View Post
    Depends....

    Was it sufficiently inciteful as to disturb public order?
    If so, then yes, as there's a crime somewhere in all of that, same as there is in public hate speeches and so on.


    Was it?
    I hadn't heard about it myself so did a quick Google...

    One outraged poster's remark sprang to mind:
    "Effigies are for hate-figures not innocent victims of a national scandal"

    Sounds to me the tower (which was the effigy in this case, not the victims) represents numerous failings on the part of numerous entities, from the government right the way down... which would make this a political statement rather than a prank.

    "As the flames begin to set the model alight, bystanders can be heard shouting "Help me, help me," while one person mocks the stay-put policy of the London Fire Brigade, saying, "Don't worry, stay in your flat.""
    Yep, political statement, social commentary, or similar thing usually the work of students or Guardian-reading vegan activist types.

    I haven't seen the video itself, but all the responses of the high-profile responders (May, Khan, police chief Blah) all decrying this as a hate crime, just makes me think this began as a very pertinent and poignant statement that just really missed it's mark and got heavily misunderstood by most people... the fact that the 'pranksters' actually gave themselves up supports my perspective on that.
    I expect a statement of apology will be released, explaining it in similar way.
    Now that's kinda what I was hoping for - someone to throw a Sabo into my thinking cogs.

    As the for the earlier comment about the PM getting involved - she should have kept her nose out if there was any chance of a criminal case being even considered. Silly Doris.

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    Re: Todays society - snowflakes

    Quote Originally Posted by Saracen View Post
    Well, if I were to ask as an individual, that would be fair enough. But if I were to 'ask' as sn admin, it's really a polite way of suggesting you change it before it's done for you, quite possibly to something you may not be so fond of, and your ability to set an avatar disabled.

    I would, of course, consider requests to change it again on their merit.


    Of course, I haven't asked you to change it. Yet.
    well seeing as I don't have a picture at all I'm a bit puzzled why you'd ask me to change it at this late stage.

    Anyway where the heck did this old thread resurface from?


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    Re: Todays society - snowflakes

    As for the police getting involved. Poor taste, but not a crime, shame on the MPs and media for hyping it up. Anything to appease the victims of the fire and stop people remembering what a shoddy response the council and government did in helping them. And anything to distract from the fudge-cake farce that is fast becoming brexit. Anything! No, really, anything. Even pictures of ice cream would do right?

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    Re: Todays society - snowflakes

    Quote Originally Posted by ik9000 View Post
    As for the police getting involved. Poor taste, but not a crime, shame on the MPs and media for hyping it up. Anything to appease the victims of the fire and stop people remembering what a shoddy response the council and government did in helping them. And anything to distract from the fudge-cake farce that is fast becoming brexit. Anything! No, really, anything. Even pictures of ice cream would do right?
    It very possibly is a crime, under the Communications Act. A lot would rest on proving intent.
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    Re: Todays society - snowflakes

    Quote Originally Posted by Smudger View Post
    Feasts didn't have nuts on, that was biscuit. Unless they made one with nuts on that I can't remember...


    NNNNNNNNNoooooooooooooooooooooo


    ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo





    o

    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


    ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO




    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    O

    O
    O
    O
    O
    O
    O
    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

    I've been lying to myself all these years...

    Smudger...you are a saviour...Id have gone to my GRAVE thiking they were just cheap nuts with less nutty taste .....



    //sigh

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    Re: Todays society - snowflakes

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOO
    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    oooooooooooooooooooooo
    oooooooooooooooo
    ooooooo
    ooo!

    Quote Originally Posted by Advice Trinity by Knoxville
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    //sigh

    Quote Originally Posted by Advice Trinity by Knoxville
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    Re: Todays society - snowflakes

    https://youtu.be/fHMoDt3nSHs?t=228

    think this sums up a whole heap of awesome and it starts at the right place (228 seconds)

    Quote Originally Posted by Advice Trinity by Knoxville
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    Re: Todays society - snowflakes

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    NNNNNNNNNoooooooooooooooooooooo


    ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo





    o

    oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo


    ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO




    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
    O

    O
    O
    O
    O
    O
    O
    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!

    I've been lying to myself all these years...

    Smudger...you are a saviour...Id have gone to my GRAVE thiking they were just cheap nuts with less nutty taste .....



    //sigh
    Erm, right. Glad to be of service. MAy the light shine brightly on your new discovery...

    Had they not been biscuit I would never have been able to savour the delicious chocolate-esque centre, covered with chocolate-type ice cream, covered in chocolate-ish (and biscuit) shell...
    Not sure if you can buy Feasts any more though...

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    Re: Todays society - snowflakes

    Quote Originally Posted by Smudger View Post
    Erm, right. Glad to be of service. MAy the light shine brightly on your new discovery...

    Had they not been biscuit I would never have been able to savour the delicious chocolate-esque centre, covered with chocolate-type ice cream, covered in chocolate-ish (and biscuit) shell...
    Not sure if you can buy Feasts any more though...
    had one in September

    Quote Originally Posted by Advice Trinity by Knoxville
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