wow powder keg thread if ever there was one. Sooo, everybody breathe
It's all been said before, we all know each other's positions, is anyone going to change now? It's a mess, there's no good outcome now, and the damage is done. We can't stay in now - untenable. We can't seriuosly accept a bodge deal without hamstringing ourselves, and the forecast is economic contraction for some time if we go out hard brexit no deal. So all in, it's all just a bit of a
Actually, no one on here knows my position for the following reason. I spent two years before the vote was announced researching the EU and whether we should stay or not. I watched more Farage speeches than anyone should ever have to watch. I knew the names of the majority of the Comission of the time and (nearly) all of the Presidents (there are a lot). I was interviewed by a journalist and invited onto a live Channel 4 debate (didn't do it at the pleading request of my mother of all things). I spent a whole load of my time refining arguments and making them, convincing people and so on.
I'm now so sick of it all that I help run a Farcebook page on getting over the damn thing and just all working towards making the best of it all. I'm sick of the debate, I'm sick of the ad-hominem, tu quoque, misuse of accusations of "strawman" and "cognitiive dissonance" but most of all the arguments from ignorance from all sides - usually intentional misrepresentations. None of it matters anymore, we are where we are, reliving the past and wishing you'd done differently won't help. We all need to accept our current position. No one from either side wanted to be here and right now the only person who looks to be winning is the chap who wrote the book on how to leave the EU which basically said "repeal the European Communities Act and leave without any deal or any money changing hands and go to WTO terms". That's what we are heading towards and his book has a lot of ideas on how to cope with that... may become popular in Westminster bookshops very soon. I'm sure there are some very full inco pads in the Lords already.
Galant (01-10-2018)
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