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    What's the best way to get someone out of a suicidal depression state?

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    Seek physiological help from a professional.

    I can't really give any personal help, but i'd just say try get them to see the good things in life, and what is worth living for, and all the good things that will/could happen. good luck.

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    Take them to their GP, and ask for an urgent referral to a psychriatrist / local mental health centre.

    GPs tend to know practically nothing about depression, hence the request for a specialist referral. He'll then need to be diagnosed, probably by a mental health nurse, to assess severity before treatment can begin.

    Best to be supportive around him but not invasive. Don't get the idea either that you personally can pull him out his depressive state.

    Also would be worth contacting Depression Alliance and getting some leaflets / website information. The US site NIMH (National Institute for Mental Health) is also a good source of information.
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    Maybe get them to call the Samaritans? Try and persuade them to go to the doctor, depression is a medical condition and is treatable with prescription drugs.

    If you genuinely believe they're at real risk of harming themselves or committing suicide you can call a doctor and get them sectioned for their own protection I think. Hopefully it won't come to that though.

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    Please remeber the guidelines on medical threads folk. Discussion is fine , but please avoid giving direct advice ( other than to seek professional assistance )

    the samartians / nhsdirect might be a good place to start.
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    just be there for them. Help to make meals/errands etc. Make sure they are drinking enough water etc.

    Not really a state you can bring a person out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XA04
    Seek physiological help from a professional.

    I can't really give any personal help, but i'd just say try get them to see the good things in life, and what is worth living for, and all the good things that will/could happen. good luck.
    not physiological help...I'm a physiologist. what you actually want is a psychologist. I deal with the body, they deal with the mind. a subtle but important difference
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    I graduate with my psychology degree next month, trust me get them real help with someone who knows what they are talking about or it could do more bad than good.

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    its a phsyciatrist youre after not a psycologist, well...maybe a clinical pshycologist. ive been on a pshyciatry block for a few weeks now, and i'd definately advise going to see a gp and getting an emergency referal. depression is a common condition, but can be pretty complicated, especially if there are suicidal thoughts involved.

    there are drug treatments available and these can be very effective, but without getting to the route of the problem it may recurr...hence the psychiatrist.

    i'd hope the gp would be able to help, i think saying they know nothing is a touch harsh as it is a common presenting complaint for them to deal with and they should have a pretty good idea of how to approach it. sure some gps may be better/worse than others but dont tarnish them all with the same brush eh. gps have their place, as do the specialists

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    ... and above all, be there for them, be there friend and make sure they damn well know about it too.

    Depressives kinda lose sight of all the good things there are and, unfortunately, they don't heed whats being said to them either so you've got to really hammer it home to them...

    Doctors for the first port of call, then off to a shrink/counsellor pronto... I'd go for a counsellor AS WELL as a shrink as just being able to talk to a third party can be a massive help.

    but above all, be there for them....
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    Noahhowes is right, you need a psychiatrist (a doctor who specialises in mental illness). A psychotherapist may also be helpful in the longer term.

    Depression is a complicated condition which is influenced both by physiology (a reduction in neurotransmitters!) and by environmental conditions.

    If someone is suicidal, they need professional help, from a doctor.

    In the longer term, depression has a social aspect. Don't severe ties with this person no matter how impossible they try to make a continued friendship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeePee
    Depression is a complicated condition which is influenced both by physiology (a reduction in neurotransmitters!) and by environmental conditions.
    Yeah exactly- it can become a vicious circle where the reduction in neurotransmitters (dopamine?) causes you to feel miserable, which causes you to think depressing thoughts, which leads to a further drop in dopamine levels etc.

    I was depressed for a while at university, but eventually came out the other side with no intervention. OTOH, a close relative of mine couldn't break the cycle on their own, and a short period on antidepressants made the world of difference. They allowed them (forgive the non-gender-specifics) to look at the problems that were making them unhappy and deal with them without them causing a spiral back into sadness and self-pity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiato storm
    not physiological help...I'm a physiologist. what you actually want is a psychologist. I deal with the body, they deal with the mind. a subtle but important difference
    meh, i just put the spelling into google because i couldn't spell it

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