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Thread: HD-TV's - Who's got one then?

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    HD-TV's - Who's got one then?

    So, seeing as the new Xbox 360 and it's games are all going to be optimised for HD-TV's, how many people actually have one?
    Last edited by autopilot; 16-05-2005 at 01:36 PM.

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    not worth spending a huge amount on a telly just for a console..

    theres still no obvious sign of hdtv taking over in this country, as the benefits over normal tv are much less than they are in the states. that said, my next tv has been earmarked as a ratehr nice 36" toshiba picture frame 100hz telly.. not hdtv.. in 3 years time when i come to replace that, maybe the market will be a little more open, at the moment, i just don't see the point
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    Quote Originally Posted by 5lab
    not worth spending a huge amount on a telly just for a console..

    theres still no obvious sign of hdtv taking over in this country, as the benefits over normal tv are much less than they are in the states. ...in 3 years time when i come to replace (my TV), maybe the market will be a little more open, at the moment, i just don't see the point
    My thoughts exactly.

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    And the question is, are these Xbox 360 games being optimised for the European HDTV standard as well as the North American version?

    The European standard runs at a higher resolution so it might not be supported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron
    And the question is, are these Xbox 360 games being optimised for the European HDTV standard as well as the North American version?

    The European standard runs at a higher resolution so it might not be supported.
    i might be wrong, but i understand there are 2 standards of hdtv, 1080i and 720i, and neither is us or europe specific.
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    I think the most popular two are 720p (progressive but lower res) and 1080i (higher res but interlaced). Neither is ideal!

    http://www.cybercollege.com/dtv_stans.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDTV

    And anyway, how much is a HDTV in the UK going to set you back?

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    The BBC already produces some programmes (mostly documentaries) in HD for foreign markets, such as the USA and Japan. The Corporation intends to produce all its programmes in HD by the year 2010. The BBC is believed to favour 720p because of its superior resistance to motion artifacts in live action.

    There are no plans for HDTV versions of the Freeview and Top Up TV digital terrestrial television services, owing to the fact that there is no spare bandwidth available. This may change after the UK's analog television signals are switched off, but the date of the switchoff is still being hotly debated.

    Sky's pay platform plans to launch its premium HD services on satellite in 2006. It will be limited to some channels and special events. Sky has confirmed that both 720p and 1080i will be available for use. Some reports suggest that Sky's system will be capable of transmitting imported US HDTV programming in its native 30 or 60 Hz vertical scan rates, in addition to domestic programming in 25 or 50 Hz.

    Recent reports suggest that Sky will make headline sporting events such as soccer matches available in HD to pubs before the launch of the domestic HD service.

    It is almost certain that cable providers will upgrade to HD as and when channels become available.
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    I'm sure the UK will manage to somehow produce a substandard, lesser featured version of whats available in the rest of the world, but then I'm a pessimist! (DAB anyone?)
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    what you on about dab for? digital radio isnt in very many places elsewhere in the world

    hdtv here is fairly expensive, and pretty much limited to lcd panels. sorry about the 720p/720i mix-up

    i think we should just stick with 60/120hz for our hdtv, no point in doing 2 standards is there now..

    720p should be plenty, in widescreen thats still about twice the definition you get now, which i recon will look super
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    I must say that I think it's entirely nuts that there will still be 50Hz and 60Hz HD programming. Personally I think we should standardise on 60Hz.

    I really want an HDTV, but I won't be buying one until it starts broadcasting....what's the point? Prices will have dropped next year and specs will have improved. If I can get something like the DLP rear projector Sagems they've had on demo in Comet recently for about a grand I'll be a happy man (if I've managed to save up a grand that is ).

    Don't forget though that if you're keen you can buy pre-recorded High-Def material for home use already- D-Threatre tapes on D-VHS. I reckon it'll go the way of Laserdisc in years to come, but right now it's the best quality source you can buy.

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    Is HDTV CRT based?

    I really wish they would scrap the 50Hz thing and converge, I guess it allows them to keep markets seperate for video games etc.

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    So in short - no one has them.

    Too much cash, not enough benefit.

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    Actually the website I will be setting up in the next week or so is a UK HDTV news/forum site.

    HDTV is gonna be massive in the UK next year when the prices start to come down a bit.

    Watch this space!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tifosi
    Is HDTV CRT based?
    HDTV is independent of the type of display used, it refers to the resolution of the source signal. A display needs to be capable of at least 1280x720 to display a 720i or 720p signal; it needs to be capable of 1920x1080 to display a 1080i or 1080p signal. In practice many CRT computer monitors will manage 720p with no problems, and 1080i with a small loss of detail. Very few CRT TVs OTOH are capable of resolutions much above 640x480. A plasma screen with a resolution of 848x480 (as a lot of them are) isn't going to do HDTV justice fully either.

    Some more reading:

    http://www.dansdata.com/gz029.htm

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    I looked into it as I needed a new telly for the flat, but end of the day, its muchos cash.

    I'll get a nice 32" widescreen, and a projector + screen for some proper gaming.

    Was going to get a rear projection job, but they are bigger than the flat I was planning to put it in.

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    i might be wrong, but i understand there are 2 standards of hdtv, 1080i and 720i, and neither is us or europe specific.
    The last I heard was that Europe was going for a higher 1250i resolution. If the BBC uses the 1080i then I'll be very happy. I'd rather organisations all used the same standard, even if it's a slightly poorer one.

    When I used to do video work for a Japanese company, the PAL/NTSC issue used to drive me nuts.

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