Looks like its made it to the UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4881526.stm
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Looks like its made it to the UK
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4881526.stm
Omfgrun!11!!!
We're doomed!
[slightly more sensible edit]
I appreciate this *could* turn out to be bad but I'm heartily sick of the way the press is presenting this
it was bound to happen. lets just hope its no worse on the economy than foot & mouth
Jon's boss's wife works in a hospital dept, and they were told 6 months ago that a super virus was going to hit Britain and gave them procedures on how to deal with it, dunno what dept she works in, i'm certainly not getting me knickers in a twist over the bird flu malarkey
*i told my Boss she has dopey bird flu, forgetfullness in old people isn't a good thing :D
its not a problem until it can be transmitted from human to human, currently its only bird to human.
To get to the state where it can be transmitted humna to human it has to mutate, this will most probably be as a result of an interaction with a human flu virus.
A pandemic is certainly overdue, but its not here yet
Weren't the government supposed to be running an exercise today to deal with such an outbreak... seems they've got it almost right this time.... getting ready for it an all
Dont count your chickens ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tiggerai
Until their dead?
i work in a hospital and know every one (everyone pretty anyway) and i never heard this :|Quote:
Originally Posted by shelley bda
Jus a polite reminder to stop any poultry diddling. Its no longer sanitary.
Not that I need to warn some people on this forum, but if your into beastiality, its time to stop.
SARS all over again. OK, maybe it's got further, but that's still my opinion. Nothing terrible came of it.
Why can't we have a Zombie epidemic?
Shaun of the dead IRL FTW!
28 days later is coming true!
My mates missus has bird flu.... Shes forever moaning about something and cant park to save herself.. :mrgreen:
Seriously though, I am from Fife, and only about 15 minute drive from the location of the infected swan. Have had no knock on effects within my radius so far with the exception of bird keepers being told to house birds 24/7 instead of over night housing.
Im at a training course in glasgow this week and the news yesterday on the local paper was that 2 birds were found dead... although no test results had been produced as of yet.
there were cases in Asia where there were examples of this being passed human to human. A pandemic will occur when it mutates though you are right. At the end of the mutation it would be considered air-born therefor releasing itself in to the atmosphere and infecting others via coughing and sneezing.Quote:
Originally Posted by pak000
although it appears that its nothing to worry about and does sound simalr to sars foot and mouth and even bse in a way, if which it no doubt could mutuatew into a human virus we do have a large problem, and just because people have there own views about how unserious it is, unlike other outbreaks it hass got here very quickly and has killed people allready.
although they were ones that worked very closley with the animals whos to say that it can happen here there are people that live with and have children that play with birds i know we are slightly more perpared than some of the smaller pooer coutrys but i think this none the less should be taken seriously amongst people. as im happy to se it is in scotland right now
Well, when our times up there is nothing you can do! We all have big dates above our heads saying the exact time etc when we will peg out!
Just live life and try not to get too paranoid!
Gee, anyone know where to get a vaccine?
yup
its called staying in your house playing ur pc for the rest of your life whilst gambling to survive on line of claiming benefits tbh
I had bird flu last week - It wasn't too bad, I just felt peckish all the time ... I'll get me coat :p
no need to ruffle your feathers about itQuote:
Originally Posted by KW1816
No need to egg me on :)
eggshellent.
You've got bird flu? Don't worry, I hear it's tweetable! :-)
W.
that was cheep.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waka
Don't yolk him on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clunk
Your all cluckin mad.
I live next to a chicken farm but im not worried in the slightest because this man speaks the truthQuote:
Originally Posted by pak000
my biology teacher told me that on top of what pak000 has said here, you can eat birds which are infected with the bird form of bird flu because the disease is only respiratory - so long as you dont go around french kissing infected chickens you will be fine
also, if you catch it it doesnt mean you will die, the old and the very young are most at risk from a fatality but i think most of the people on this board are between the ages of 16-50 so i really dont think anyone here has anything to fear (not that anyone was)
everyone needs to get tooled up to the facts and not the media facts in my opinion, otherwise our economy will take a hit (my dad is still freaking out about eating chicken tikkas!)
pete
OMG its not global warming anymore thats going to end the world its BIRD FLU OMG we're all going to die!!!!!!!!!!
So far its only extremely close proximity and lots of handling that seem to cause the spread to humans. As has been said earlier, there is no risk unless you are inhaling their crap, which gets powdered from all their stomping.
I would say workers on free range farms workers would be at much less risk, aside from the fact their livestock has a higher chance of being infected.
Caged hens have the advantage of being harder to infect (migratory birds arent going to pop in for a cup of tea) but if they do get infected, theres gonna be a lot of poop dust flying around.
So until this thing mutates, im enjoying my bacon and egg butties and asda chicken portions :)
:rolleyes: ... that's my Saturday Night plans scuppered now then :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirate Pete
As long as it does not mutate into a strain capable of air-bourne speading we'll be fine. I think only a few isolated cases might appear, nothing too major really.
Newspapers need to be ashamed really. I've already seen people panic buying at Tesco's and Asda. Instead of trying to increase sales and printing stuff like "OMG birdflu is here - we're all gonna die" they should try to calm the hysteria.
Hehe, so thats what mancs do! its all so clear now!. But yeah thats how they sell papers, bad state of affairs but they are in business. If I see anyone panic buying I might just upside the head them... Idiots.
oops :mrgreen:Quote:
Originally Posted by BeoWulf
Oops?
Beowulf, if i see anyone going upside someones head for buying some chicken im calling the 5-0
you violent piece of chicken poop
yeah, oops upside your head, i said oops upside your head :D
Panic buying in case of a pandemic... all that does is cause disruption to "normal" people. So they deserve some pennance. Its like when everyone bought god knows how much petrol and actually caused the shortages that were predicted.
Hahaha, I see now. Never realised.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clunk
never mind, it was a fowl joke anyway. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BeoWulf
Oh boy, we better DUCK and cover in case we get any more :)
I think wev'e all been cooped up far too long reading these corny jokes, time to get some fresh air methinks
*sigh* i reckon that other birds have got it that had all ready gone past the designated zone
If you check the statistics, (also noting what has already been stated here that H5N1 cannot be passed easily to humans) the high ratio of people catching the virus and death seem to be in countries with relatively poor health services (ie. remote villages with poor facilities). Since we (well most of the people using this forum) live in the UK, there's probably not much to worry about since we have a decent health service and most of us are not in constant, intimate contact with birds. Just keep clean is the advice at the moment, i think.
In the words of H2G2 - DON'T PANIC
Hehe I should be worried if we were!.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whiternoise
Well you know.. got to remind people of these things.. ;p
Quote:
Originally Posted by shelley bda
lol, brilliant.
for a great example of how bad the panic has got have a look at this forum:
http://www.avianflutalk.com/
i found it yesterday, thread titles so far have included 'sauerkraut may cure BF' & 'Can CC Payment Protection Plan Save Our Bacon?'
pretty insane if you ask me, theres even a sub forum called 'avian flu pandemic survival tips' or something equally stupid
ridiculous.
pete
Ah.. panic stricken Britons.. that site is fantastic, certainly made my week. (no offense meant to anyone here who uses it.)
I don't know whether to laugh or shake my head in pity :heckle:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirate Pete
Stock up on tinned soup - we're all gonna die - DIE I tells ya!
W.
I decided to sign up to that avianflu site and give them a piece of my mind
needless to say i was banned within 30 minutes :D
they are so badly brain washed by the media that they said i was some kind of anti Britain maniac as a reason for banning me (i had told them they were idiots for worrying that much about bird flu and that it was pointless etc)
Hahaha cool!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirate Pete
I'm glad they haven't forgotten about preparing the disabled people :D
And their Pandemic preparation video forum looks very informative :p
We're not gonna die just yet. And the virus is behind schedule in the transition to human-to-human virus lol
Wow... talk about OTT. Theres a chance we could all die tommorow. Common sense and survival instincts are all you need. But with something like virus or biological payloads (be them natural or not). Its kinda hard to defend against unless you have a white room somewhere in your house hehe.
also if it does mutate into a form that can be passed from human to human it could also mutate into a form that isnt deadly to humans,Quote:
Originally Posted by pak000
reminds me of the andromeda strain
Well the mutations usually aid it in its spreading capacity. Survival is its key. As long as it can spread well I dont see it being less deadly. If however its hosts become limited in some way... life has a habit of extending itself.
I too have just posted a piece of my mind, covering the concern i have for the users of the 'avianflutalk' forum.. needless to say i will probably be banned within the day..:rolleyes:
Actually, this list is by far the most funny - from the forum, take heed my friends:
100 Items to Disappear First (a list compiled by a member of the forum of things to stock up on in times of pandemic)
(just the first 25)
1. Generators (Good ones cost dearly. Gas storage, risky. Noisy...target of
thieves; maintenance etc.)
2. Water Filters/Purifiers
3. Portable Toilets
4. Seasoned Firewood. Wood takes about 6 - 12 months to become dried, for home
uses.
5. Lamp Oil, Wicks, Lamps (First Choice: Buy CLEAR oil. If scarce, stockpile
ANY!)
6. Coleman Fuel. Impossible to stockpile too much.
7. Guns, Ammunition, Pepper Spray, Knives, Clubs, Bats & Slingshots.
8. Hand-can openers, & hand egg beaters, whisks.
9. Honey/Syrups/white, brown sugar
10. Rice - Beans - Wheat
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
12. Charcoal, Lighter Fluid (Will become scarce suddenly)
13. Water Containers (Urgent Item to obtain.) Any size. Small: HARD CLEAR
PLASTIC ONLY - note - food grade if for drinking.
16. Propane Cylinders (Urgent: Definite shortages will occur.
17. Survival Guide Book.
18. Mantles: Aladdin, Coleman, etc. (Without this item, longer-term lighting is
difficult.)
19. Baby Supplies: Diapers/formula. ointments/aspirin, etc.
20. Washboards, Mop Bucket w/wringer (for Laundry)
21. Cookstoves (Propane, Coleman & Kerosene)
22. Vitamins
23. Propane Cylinder Handle-Holder (Urgent: Small canister use is dangerous
without this item)
24. Feminine Hygiene/Haircare/Skin products.
25. Thermal underwear (Tops & Bottoms)
Worth a thought, you can never have too many portable toilets or items of thermal underwear.
(i'll take it off if it breaches the forum rules)
11. Vegetable Oil (for cooking) Without it food burns/must be boiled etc.,)
:lol:
..must be boiled etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clunk
how many people here have ever boiled vegetable oil, and if you have.. what for?!
Oh yeah, you gotta have a big stock of boiling oil for repelling all the looters!
i like a nice cup of boiled vegetable oil as a tasty alternative to horlicks.
get back to me when its airbourne and human-human. It aint going to cause any harm until then. at least chicken prices may drop cos of people boycotting it, and they drop to try and sell.
Asda Frozen chicken portions, like £1.60 :)