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    What a sad way to go.......

    A WOMAN of 40 lay dead in her flat for almost THREE YEARS without anyone missing her.

    Joyce Vincent’s skeleton was surrounded by unopened Christmas presents, an inquest heard.
    The TV and heating were on, washing-up lay in a kitchen bowl and a mountain of post was stacked behind the front door.

    Police believe Joyce probably died of natural causes in 2003.
    But her body, which was lying on a sofa, was only discovered by bailiffs in January this year.

    It was so badly decomposed that the only way she could be identified was by comparing dental records with a holiday photo of her smiling.
    Food in the flat was marked with 2003 expiry dates.

    Joyce’s family, including her sisters, told the inquest that the flat was a women’s refuge where she had lived after becoming a victim of domestic violence.
    They said she had been engaged but it was not known if she had married.

    The family admitted they had lost touch after she moved to the self-contained bedsit — one of 100 above a shopping centre in Wood Green, North London. Det Insp Michael Ainslie, of the Met Police, told the family in court: “It’s very sad no one raised the alarm.”

    A policeman called to the scene said he noticed a “strong smell” like a body coming from inside the flat.
    After the inquest, neighbours also admitted noticing a “foul, rotten smell”. But nobody reported it.

    Police told the hearing in Hornsey, North London, there were no suspicious circumstances.
    Pathologist Dr Simon Poole said he was unable to establish a cause of death given the “largely skeletal” remains.

    Deputy Coroner Andrew Walker recorded an open verdict.
    He said: “I offer my deepest sympathies to members of the family.”

    The flat was managed by the Metropolitan Housing Trust.

    A spokeswoman said bailiffs were called when Joyce, originally from Hammersmith, West London, fell badly behind with her rent.
    They had not noticed earlier because the rent was partly covered by housing benefit.

    The spokeswoman said the trust was “not contacted by neighbours or family to raise any concerns”.
    The building’s caretaker Kevin Mann was present when Joyce’s body was found. He said: “She looked like she’d just come back from shopping.

    “I live below and never noticed the smell. People keep themselves to themselves in this block.”
    Next-door neighbour Mickel Dobbs, who moved in two years ago, admitted he noticed a “foul” smell.

    He added: “Every time I opened my window I would see strange little black insects crawling through.”
    Neighbour Celia Cassidy said: “I am totally shocked. Nobody knew anything at all.”

    Another neighbour, Ngosi Tobin, said: “It’s terrible. In other countries people know their neighbours but not here. It is easy to see how it would happen. Poor woman.”

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    I was just reading this in the paper in the barbers. The quotes from people who live nearby were a bit odd. They all noted a bad smell but did nothing about it. I mean a dead body it's pretty unmistakable. I suppose the air quality where they live must be pretty poor already to not report it.

    Terrible really to think you can die and no one gives a toss. Anyways..................... I hope she rests in peace.

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    alomst 3 years and no-one missed her !
    her family should be ashamed (makes me think of the woman dying on her sofa)

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    Quote Originally Posted by copycatuk
    alomst 3 years and no-one missed her !
    her family should be ashamed (makes me think of the woman dying on her sofa)
    If you read it, she was living in a womens refuge probably trying to escape her past. She may have had alot of demons.

    It's very possible not talking to someone for that long. In the past 12 years i've seen my own mother 3 times. The last time was 2001. I havn't spoken to her since then. She's in a similar situtation where she just upped and went and has also ended up in a womens refuge. My sister spoke to her only when she needs my sister for something. The last time she heard from her was about 9 month ago in a letter. No one knows where she is, last time I heard she was in Plymouth.

    It's not always black and white. People can and do put themselves in these situations.

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    Wow that is terrible, especially as it was such a long time.

    Where did you hear that?

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    Someone posted a BBC link about this into IRC a few hours ago. Knoxy probably pasted it from there.

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    A woman of 40 though, you would think she would have some friends, not like she was in her 80's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrandX
    If you read it, she was living in a womens refuge probably trying to escape her past. She may have had alot of demons.

    It's very possible not talking to someone for that long. In the past 12 years i've seen my own mother 3 times. The last time was 2001. I havn't spoken to her since then. She's in a similar situtation where she just upped and went and has also ended up in a womens refuge. My sister spoke to her only when she needs my sister for something. The last time she heard from her was about 9 month ago in a letter. No one knows where she is, last time I heard she was in Plymouth.

    It's not always black and white. People can and do put themselves in these situations.
    sorry to hear that mate

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    Man thats sad to hear.. As said you would of thought someone would have reported the smell.. but I guess you can't say without being in that position..

    Still, not not nice to think she was laying dead for 3 years..


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    I read this in my local paper, very very sad

    Long gone are the days when neighbours used to look out for each other, people tend to keep themselves to themselves nowadays

    I can remember being made to check up on old neighbours and run errands for them when i was a little girl, i didn't mind, it gave me something to do in the holidays and i was well paid for it ( Loads of sweets and prezzies at christmas and easter ) it was like having lots of grandparents

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    ah man that made me want to throw up... really sad though

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    Yeah I agree its sad that no one missed her and all that, but what makes me sick is the council only came round because she owed them money!!

    Now thats probably the worst part about I think, the council, has a responsibily given that you pay them taxes and what not to check up on people who live in these refuge places every now and then, but then that costs money doesn't it?

    This country makes me sick, I look forward to leave, its so sad I have to feel about the country I've grown up in.

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