:angst: Why the F**** can't you paste with firefox? everytime i see something like news I'd like to copy and paste firefox never has the option i have to open Ie
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:angst: Why the F**** can't you paste with firefox? everytime i see something like news I'd like to copy and paste firefox never has the option i have to open Ie
Ummmm?
What are you on about? :confused:
copy and paste? works for moi...
I thought this was going to be about the css in firefox.. gah! how i hate it for that.. you get a site all hunky dory in IE and then it looks like a mess... and "ooh!" some may say... its not firefox its IE thats the problem.. No! No! its firefox... i checked it on the net.. some wierd thing about widths..
IE does have some problems too though
firefox has really started to annoy me at the moment, occasionally it just closes randomly without explanation, sometimes there appears to be a memory leak as it requires large amount of RAM to run it, and more recently its just not opening some web pages, its says "server not available", then you hit refresh and it loads. :undecided
Ok im trying to post info from here http://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?t=71781
To someother forum i go to,So when i highlight the infomation all is fine and i copy it,But then when i go to paste it at the other forum i get this-http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/3180/untitled9uh.jpg
Where the hell is paste?
You got an up to date version Johnny? in the older versions there was memory leaks - fixed now though....
BlueRiband, copy and pasting works for everyone else so it's obviously a problem on your end rather than the guys over at Mozilla..... tried rebooting? re-installing? maybe it's an extension you have installed. Try running in safe mode.
Edit: BlueRiband you must of clicked on the wrong box or something as a different box pops up when you are (for example) going to paste into a text box.
CTRL+C = copy
CTRL+V = paste
keyboard shorcuts > mouse
where exactly do you expect to paste? you can only paste into an input field of some kind - you get the above context menu when right-clicking on a page itself (rather than one somewhere, well, that you can paste into)Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueRiband
um... msie barely supports CSSQuote:
Originally Posted by dom_xbox
general rule of thumb is "if it works in MSIE, it's not valid CSS"
you only get that rightclicky menu up if you arent right-clicking on a textbox?! but like Steve says, use the keyboard shortcuts, tis much easier :) oh and ctrl+x for cut :)Quote:
Where the hell is paste?
looks like you beat me to it directhex :)
You mean the box model?Quote:
Originally Posted by dom_xbox
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interne..._box_model_bug
As you can tell from the name of the article, it is generally agreed that the fault lies with Internet Explorer. As the piccy shows, the problem is that Internet Explorer considers the width attribute to include the padding, whereas width should actually exclude padding.
And everybody else has beaten me to posting about pasting!
Ah Great the keyboard bit works,But surely the mouse shortcut should also,Thanks guys
yes mate i had the pop up the other day advising that there was an update but still having the problems. The memory leak hasnt occured since this new update, but im still having problems with it just closing and chucking me the "server not available" pageQuote:
Originally Posted by XA04
I have manged to pick away with css and get it looking half decent in Firefix.. opened Ie6 and its been fine...Quote:
Originally Posted by directhex
I know the stuff with the alpha blending is IE only... and the curos:hand; is specificly for IE only too.. apart from that havent really had that may problems with it
QFTQuote:
Originally Posted by Steve
Why the hell would you use anything else?
work *where*? *where* are you clicking?Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueRiband
opera is much better than firefox and ie tbh, it has email,irc and torrents built in now so u dont have to mess around with loads of apps
You know what the big rule about all-in-ones is dontcha? They never do any of those things as well as apps designed specifically for the purpose, and generally troubleshooting problems with them is a 'mare.
I tried Opera (yes, latest version) and just found it clunky as hell, so back to FF for me. I use IE7 at work due to the stupid design of some of the webapps just not working in anything else, but that's out of need rather than choice. That said I am rather impressed that MS have taken on board criticism and made a rather nice interface for a browser.
Hmmm... well, I would consider Firefox and Thunderbird to be the best Internet browser and e-mail client respectively. I used to use them, but then I swapped to Seamonkey. E-mail is essentially identical, while web browsing is, dare I say it, slightly better (largely due to not installing Flash in Seamonkey, I just bring up Firefox on the occasions that I actually want Flash. But I probably prefer Seamonkey now anyway.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Splash
FIREFOX doesnt interpret widths the same, like for ecample, percentages dont always work with FF. but do in IE, also, stuff like margins on divs, they add on in FF, they work inside the div width in IE.Quote:
Originally Posted by dom_xbox
just stuff that comes with practise... also font sizes are different, the easiest way around this is to use Strict code instead of transitional in the doctype label.
I had to learn all this the hard way, and im still learning, but as everything my company does has to be compliant and css valid, and still look good, its stuff that had to be learnt.
Why would specifying a different HTML DTD alter the way the CSS is rendered?Quote:
Originally Posted by mmh
Well Firefox also got on my nerves and now I use IE6 and Opera 8.54 :) excellent combination.
I stick to my guns about my opnion of Firefox being an overrated pile of pocket fluff.
IE7 will be a force to reckon with when it officially rears its head as it'll have tabbed browsing and all that fancy pantsery :D
then you'd know which of the two is following the W3 CSS rendering rules more closely. for some odd reason, something which looks spot on in gecko also looks fine in khtml, webcore and presto, yet will look wrong in trident. i wonder why that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by mmh
each to their own...IE6 works as a browser for most people, the security holes don't worry me too much, and it's true that many websites look and render faster in IE - although that tends to be down to poor coding.Quote:
Originally Posted by BEANFro Elite
I like FF as a browser mainly for its bookmarks toolbar (the only toolbar I have ever used) and tabbed windows. The thottbot search plugin is also useful :) My main issue wtih it is CSS, and also how exchange server is presented in it. No where near as slick as the IE one.
Opera? I don't like it, as has been mentioned it feels rather 'clunky' to me, and I definitely think it is a case of 'jack of all trades master of none'. The fact that it now includes torrent support just forces it lower in my eyes..encouraging piracy now (or maybe using BitTorrents popularity with the proles as a way to boot Opera's user base??)
IE7 is a serious contender to FF, but only when used in Vista. In XP it just doesn't work, it looks totally wrong, and needs some serious re-skinning to make it fit in. Vista all has the same stupid menu bar system so it fits in well there :)
The great thing about standards is that you can have so many. Sadly the reason CSS works for IE is that people in general write for IE, not the standard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spud1
As for the way Exchange server is presented I assume you mean OWA 2003? That'll be because in IE it can make use of activex...
I don't want to sound like a FF fanboy as there are way too many of them out there, but the reason a lot of things work better for IE is that they are developed specifically for IE, and pants to the rest of the world.
Pah, to me its not how it looks, its how it performs, IE6 is a great performer in my opinion.
It seems the only reason people gave me to use Firefox over IE6 and Opera were that it is highly customisable and is more secure.
Opera has a smaller userbase than firefox hence has less hackers and IE since the SP2 updates and fixes really HAS gotten a lot more secure, if not more then on a par with Firefox.
The reason IE6 is so bog standard etc. is because the minute they put features on it that are overly useful they'll get an anti-competition lawsuit, god only knows how MS will get away with IE7 without being accused of anti-competition :D
I think people should just say which browsers exist give links to them all and say to people you choose, because there is no real difference between them all.
You also forgot to point out that, everyone who has Windows also has the potential to use IE6 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Splash
In my experience, this is the case many of ur common or garden Windows users probably haven't heard of the other browsers and if they do, they don't bother getting them because IE6 just does the job.
That said, Opera has a "submit a website" style function and Firefox has its large and pro-active community to make plugins to make some websites that are designed for IE6 work in Firefox.
Yeah I did mean OWA2003 :) Should have specified it better. FF can use ActiveX though (albeit via a 3rd party plugin), for example logmein.com uses activeX as one method for accessing your PC - works fine in FF :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Splash
Oh come on. I'd suggest KHTML is worse then trident.Quote:
Originally Posted by directhex
Clear case of "born on windows".Quote:
Originally Posted by Spud1
KHTML has come along an astonishing amount in the past couple of years, and these days is more compliant than Gecko - apple seem pleased enough with it as the basis for WebcoreQuote:
Originally Posted by yamangman
Explain that please...taken out of context I can see where you are coming from - but that phrase was talking about the difference between how IE and FF displays Outlook Webaccess 2003. I only really use windows while at work and gaming (well BF2, i can play wow on my mac). Everything else I do with my mac, so please don't label me as 'born on windows'Quote:
Originally Posted by yamangman
Just to prove my point about the difference, here are two screenshots:
IE: http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/3315/ie6aa.jpg
FF: http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/599/ff5nd.jpg
I would guess that the differences are something to do with IE being allowed to use activeX (I _think_ it uses it, although can't confirm) while FF cannot. This is a bit stupid as firefox can support activeX controls (if you install a 3rd party extension to allow this). Not unexpected though as obviously MS will want to force people to use IE wherever possible..
Damn right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve
Dudes, this thread is funny, what was the original question? lol
oh, and btw:
So trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Steve
That's because OWA2003 does a browser detect and displays the full activex content if it detects that you are using IE, and the basic content otherwise. You could probably spoof the browser agent with a little work (about:config) and run the activex addin for FF and get it to display the shiny version, but in all honesty why bother? I'm fully aware of the activex addin but don't use it because, well, it's activex and scares me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spud1
I use firefox 99.9% of the time, but there are several things I dont like about it.
Its slow to load up,
Some websites dont load first time ( i think someone else mentioned this earlier)
I have to refresh a couple of times before it will connect. This happens a lot with
ebuyer for some unknown reason.
Also the fonts used for Japanese are horrendus, OK this doesnt matter to you lot but
its still irritating for many people, and I wonder what its like for other languages. In
English it seems ok to me.
i've been using FF for over 2 years now...
there are a couple of problems with it...
-When it freezes for about 2 seconds upon Loading this forum [weird how its only this forum :S]
-there's no shortcut to backup bookmarks folder -so a user can back them up
-How AdBlock Isnt Default with it....
-and how still some sites dont work with it....
i wonder if its the same story on Opera..
Vincent,
Bookmark > Manage Bookmarks
Brings up new window.
Then do File > Export.
Easy enough ;)
TiG
I've been having problems with FF and these forums at the moment - things timing out (been unable to post, HTTP POST that is, so any replies, PMs, new threads have been a PITA or simply not working). Today it seems to have gotten worse...
http://217.34.125.171/bay/hexxie.png
(too big to put in line, and yes, I do have images turned on - for all sites - and other (VB?) forum sites are working fine in FF and IE)
I've never ever had a problem with FF apart from it doesn't always load http://www.armyjobs.mod.uk/ properly. That's one minor thing though, 99.99% of the time, it roXors.
FF > IE, in my opinion.
cheers TiG :D
i've been doin it the long way- copy the bookmarks.htm from the application Data folder lol
tbh- i love FF because u block images and flash ads with AdBlock....
Ads on here are blocked :D
Also it's customizable by default without installing any other program or spyware [reference to HotBar]