Are Teenagers Getting Worse?

I've just been reading the local newspaper and was quite stunned.

I live in Cumbria, (Lake District area) in a suburb of Workington. Workington has a population of 30,000 and each subburb has about 2000-3000 people living, so as you can see there small areas.

This one suburb, called Seaton, has been getting vandalised quite badly recently. Here are a few of the crimes

Old People Curfewed Because There Scared
Library Windows Smashed
Paint Stripper Poured Onto Cars
Fireworks Thrown Into Shops
Phone Boxes Wrecked
Bus Passengers Intimidated
Eggs Thrown At HOuse Windows

So as you can see, not very nice for a very small suburb, but this is the strangest one...

SEX IN LIBRARY DOORWAY BY TEENAGERS WHILST OTHER TEENAGERS WATCHED, CHEERED AND APPLAUDED

So two kids having sex in a doorway in public and their mates watch and cheer them on??? What the panda is that all about???

Also in the same area, not seaton but quite close, Veteran WWII war hero who is BLIND and suffers from diabetese has been robbed in his house whilst asleep twice in a few month (and last time was on ARMISTICE DAY and hes a war hero) and an old woman got robbed in her house by 2 boys and a girl aged roughly 12!

... What kinda country is this turning into?

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Well I'm 16 and am quite alright.

Sadly, there are a lot of pandas out there these days. Still, it means more job opportunities for me in the future!

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Originally posted by unts
Well I'm 16 and am quite alright.

Sadly, there are a lot of b@st@rds out there these days. Still, it means more job opportunities for me in the future!

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If only this were true matey. There are thousands of £4 an hour jobs available- np there, but thats the kind of work that these thugs can get.

If you want something with a future then it seems that its more of a lottery thesedays.

I know nothing myslef tbh im only 18 but in my experience nice guys (AND indeed girls) do finish last :(

I have to agree that I really don't like most people out there at the moment. Stand anywhere and people are slagging everyone else off, **** ******* * ** ****** etc etc....

NS

Over here (guernsey) there tends to be certain areas where people live which are a problem. The boet is an area where many young ones are major trouble makers. All the cheap states houses are where the tough families seem to go and that's where the trouble seems to come from.

Im sure in guernsey there isnt kids screwing each other in fron of there mates who are cheering..

i cant understand that.. id NEVER screw a girl and allow my mates to watch... its sick.

[old man]
kids these days
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yeah i agree. im only just 18 and i have never done any of that.
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children these days

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was first said by a monk in 1846. i know they have gotten worse but it has always been noticed.

Morals and ethics have gone completley out the window. There is no respect for what is right and wrong. They just don't care.

In some cases one has to point to the parents. If those parents are bringing kids up like that, God knows what their kids kids will be like! That is even more worrying.

sex in a library, in front of ure m8's - that just sick imo.

These sort of stories really make me sad. I know some old people in Luton who have been shot at with air guns by kids in cars.

I feel sick that these sorts of things go on in our country - kids are so f'd up. :(

I partially blame the system, its very easy to claim dole and benefits and screw the system out of money, parents do this and that kinda filters down to the kids, but yes in general they are getting worse...

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Originally posted by unts
Well I'm 16 and am quite alright.

Sadly, there are a lot of b@st@rds out there these days. Still, it means more job opportunities for me in the future!

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UNLIKELY! I went to school with a few nasty kids and they ALL seem to be doing better than I am... I have spent the last few years of my working life studying and working hard yet I still have to live with my parents (sad at 24 I know) as I can't afford my own place yet, but I see these 'kids' driving their fancy beemers and living it up earning plenty of money from cash in hand jobs probably claiming off the doll too (for which WE pay for!).

Sorry, I kinda get wound up by a certain few subjects. On the whole, I agree, kids (I mean under 18's) are getting much much worse as we can't seem to do anything to stop them!

Perhaps I was being too positive with the job thing - can't blame me for trying.

I just resent it when people say "kids are getting worse." SOME, hell MOST kids might be, but not ALL of us.

I know it's not all kids... sorry if you took it that way. My next door neighbours are hellish at the ages of 14, 11 and 9 (or something like that) so can't imagine what they will be like later on in life! :rolleyes:

They already have motorbikes, parties, drink alcohol and possibly have some involvement with girls! Unbelievable! But the with a Dad who's never ever around and a Mum who's on the game (very possibly) it's not surprising! :eek:

I know its easy to generalise so I'm not mad at anyone on here - but I do notice a lot of people immediately class all of "us" as trouble.

I have a funny feeling that in a few years time things will turn around completely, and people who live those lives now won't want their kids to be like that. That is, if there's a shred of sensibility left in the world - just one shred, that's all we need.

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Originally posted by B!GA
UNLIKELY! I went to school with a few nasty kids and they ALL seem to be doing better than I am... I have spent the last few years of my working life studying and working hard yet I still have to live with my parents (sad at 24 I know) as I can't afford my own place yet, but I see these 'kids' driving their fancy beemers and living it up earning plenty of money from cash in hand jobs probably claiming off the doll too (for which WE pay for!).

Sorry, I kinda get wound up by a certain few subjects. On the whole, I agree, kids (I mean under 18's) are getting much much worse as we can't seem to do anything to stop them!

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Nothing to be sorry about. Understand what you mean fully. My parent work and have worked their entire lives forgoing holidays and going out to get married and buy their own house. Some townie girl gets knocked up and they are given a council house, have their rents payed, get given money etc

After a couple of yeras even people in shockingly bad debt who have squandered every penny they have ever got get given a huge discount on buying their council house and a low rate loan etc

Life is NOT fair but we all knew that anyway. Doesnt make it right. Judging by some of the things in this thread what is the furture going to be like.

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Originally posted by steve threlfall
Some townie girl gets knocked up and they are given a council house, have their rents payed, get given money etc

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I HATE townies!

I would like to apologise to any nice townies out there who don't talk like they're stupid. Then again, such a townie probably doesn't exist, so why bother?

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sex in a library, in front of ure m8's - that just sick imo

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I'm with ya on that one... who the Panda does that??? hey mate wanna watch me whip my willy out enjoy my girlfriend?? ... i dont think i'll ever say or type that again.

oh and...

I live 7miles from a town called Whitehaven.

Girls actually have sex to have babies (yes no contraception) just so they can have a house for free and bills paid etc... gives them an easy life, then at the weekends they get that "FREE" money give the kid to her parents and go out on a night out... or two.

Panda'ing disgraceful

I dont really understand why the government gives out money to people liek that (slight generalization lol....)

There should be some sort of rule, liek you get doll for a year or two if you are trying to get a job. Then you get a assessed or something. If you have been working you arse off to get a job but havent you get doll adn benefits etc. But if you just havent been arsed to do anything then you get kicked off a pilevages removed.

Will

Hello.

If you guys and gal's don't go back and edit all the lanuage out of your posts by the time i get up tomorrow (1pm?) then ill just dump the entire thread.

Theres just no need for lanuage like that - and using ** or numbers just to get your swearword across is not on.

Swearing is not needed. Nor do i want it in GD. Can't you talk in the queens english instead?

Thanks :(

Butuz

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Originally posted by unts
I know its easy to generalise so I'm not mad at anyone on here - but I do notice a lot of people immediately class all of "us" as trouble.

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That's probably because the amount of trouble kids in get in nowadays is far higher than it used to be, and especially because the nature of a lot of the trouble is WAY different. There is, in a large number of cases, very little respect for any sort of authority (be it parental, school or police) and very little respect for anybody else's person or property.

Society has changed, and it most definitely isn't for the better.

This is not to say that all kids are like that, but it is a high enough number, even if a small percentage, especially in some areas, to be a very worrying trend. Personally, I blame the consumer society. Kids seem to expect things to be handed to them on a plate, these days, be it computer games or the latest fashion statement in trainers.

And what gets the blame when you hear some of these kids trying to explain their activities after they have beem caught? Boredom, as often as not. Nothing for them to do. No resources locally, no youth clubs. And for the kids that come out with that crap, ..... newsflash ...... it was not any better in my day, but we didn't go around nicking cars or beating up old ladies for their pension money. In my day, "local resources" consisted of kicking a ball around in the street, mucking about in the local woods and, if you were very LUCKY, having a bike you could ride.

As for the fashion-statement trainers, we considered ourselves lucky if we got new clothes or shoes at all, rather than an older brother's hand-me-downs as he grew out of them. And despite Dad being decently paid, Mum was watching the pennies all the time because if she didn't go carefully with the budget at the beginning of the week, we didn't eat at the end of the week.

I know this makes me sound like a moaning old fart, and maybe there's an element of truth in that, but that doesn't make the above any less true. And I had it easy compared to my parents - I'm young enough to have missed the war and rationing - they didn't. I know that because I've still got their old ration books as a memoir.


And when I hear these spoilt brats on television moaning about how they smash up things or nick cars because they are so hard done by, it makes me want to puke ... and strangle someone.

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Originally posted by Butuz
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Theres just no need for lanuage like that - and using ** or numbers just to get your swearword across is not on.

Swearing is not needed. Nor do i want it in GD. Can't you talk in the queens english instead?

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I completely agree, and back that stance 150%.

Had Butuz not already posted that before I saw it, I'd already have dumped this thread.

The emphasis in red is mine, by the way.

Butuz

Changed all my swear words.... LMAO....

Problems we've got is that antisocial behaviour is now a disease which is spreading unchecked. As someone said earlier, how are todays lowlife, smackheads and wasters going to bring up there kids?...simple answer, with the mindset 'I do what I want and stuff everybody else, no-one can touch me' and it's exactly that attitude which is slowly but surely wrecking todays society.
For far to long now the do-gooders in this country have been making excuses for what was an originally a minority, and once we start 'accepting' certain behaviours things started to spiral out of control.
We need to get back to some sort of basics and heres a few ideas off the top of my head:-

Massive, and I mean massive, increase in police presence on the streets with a zero tolerance policy

Serious and meaningful punishment which both fits the crime and is dare I say it UNPLEASANT. Sorry thats not politically correct but heh it's what the decent people of this country are crying out for.

Nothing for nothing. If you want benefits you have to do community service for say 25 hours a weeks. Looking round there's so much that needs doing in the inner cities ie litter/grapheti etc etc.

ID cards for all with DNA info and a national DNA database starting from now to include every child's DNA taken at birth, the DNA of all convicted criminals and every immigrant/asylum seeker entering the country.

Those four for starters would be a step in the right direction but of course the civil liberties brigade would be up in arms and it'll never happen. I say never mind the criminals liberties what about my liberty as a law abiding citizen to go about my life without fear.

Sorry got on a bit of a rant and widened the subject but it's a real issue for me as it should be for every decent person. All I can say is I hope I never come across some lowlife beating up a war veteran because I seriously don't know how much damage I'd be inflicting on them!

Not a swear word in sight which I have to admit was rather difficult:confused:

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Nothing for nothing. If you want benefits you have to do community service for say 25 hours a weeks. Looking round there's so much that needs doing in the inner cities ie litter/grapheti etc etc.

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BIG UP THAT MAN

in guernsey, you can't get away with anything :)

I think that perhaps at birth every single person should have their DNA, and some biotech things on a database(liek they want to introduce...) Then there is not defense against such a crime as rape and they find your DNA. There is no way you can be innocent, it would work much better :)

Will

Guernsey eh? Wouldn't trust anyone from there ;)
I think it may have orignally been boredom, with people having nothing to do, but now people have taken it too far and just started being silly and immature.
It's not funny and it's not clever!

i'm 18, and i've got up to some pretty silly things (most of em whilst un-sober...), but i've never done anything like having sex in public or burning cars or wotever. thats just ridiculous. the way i see it round here, there is nuttin to do unless you've got cash, so quite a lot of the kids just end up starting fights or breaking stuff. its just due to boredom.

You look around - and all the people who are up in arms about the ID card idea and stuff like that all have something to hide.. if you are a law abiding citizen, then you should have NOTHING to worry about at all - why not have an ID card, if you're in an accident or something - it'll speed your identification up for a start. the fact that so many people don't fancy the idea kinda shows us what state the country's in imo.... and yeah - kids are getting worse. At home I see gaggles of kids hanging around outside the local arcade, smoking drinking and being generally anti-social, and I just find it distressing - they say there's nothing for them to do - I can't find time to do all the things I want to do, even when I was their age - it's not right. One of my work colleagues and his mate got set upon by about 10 of the little oiks about a year ago, now he has 4 children himself, and doesn't get angry often, but he hit back, and floored a few of them with a bit of wood they hit him with - to their credit - the police turned up and let em get on with it for a minute or too before they waded in and stopped it, but in the end it was my mate that got a slap on the wrist, the copper actually apologised to him for doing it, but he had no choice - he couldn't reprimand the kids because they were all about 12.... everythings gone too far with political correctness and stifling laws - they should slack some of them off and enforce others more rigourously, so these kids can actually answer for some of the serious stuff they do, like beating up war pensioners and stuff.... (that makes me madder than I can sufficiently express, let me tell you :mad: )


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I'm all for ID cards, I think they'll be great for medical reasons and such, and also help catch criminals.

Just as long as they're difficult to forge, and don't track our every move.

Workington is the dump of the North-West anyway.

It's bad enough even when you go into Maccy D's and see the sweaty fat scruffy mingers working there but get this...

In the McDonalds in Workington, some young lads were fired because a little boy developed a rash around his mouth after eating a Big Mac -- when they ran tests on the food they discovered someone had rubbishrubbishrubbishrubbishrubbished into the mayonaise.

Nice.

I'm never eating from there again.

in tamworth people have been lobbing bricks through windows of bus's and intimidating people, police are now going on bus's

And when you get a house cause a woman is pregnant you dont get all the bills paid and you dont get free rent either, i dont think you do im sure of it

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Originally posted by steve threlfall
I know nothing myslef tbh im only 18 but in my experience nice guys (AND indeed girls) do finish last :(

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Aint that the absolute truth.

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Originally posted by Saracen
This is not to say that all kids are like that, but it is a high enough number, even if a small percentage, especially in some areas, to be a very worrying trend. Personally, I blame the consumer society. Kids seem to expect things to be handed to them on a plate, these days, be it computer games or the latest fashion statement in trainers.

And what gets the blame when you hear some of these kids trying to explain their activities after they have beem caught? Boredom, as often as not. Nothing for them to do. No resources locally, no youth clubs. And for the kids that come out with that crap, ..... newsflash ...... it was not any better in my day, but we didn't go around nicking cars or beating up old ladies for their pension money. In my day, "local resources" consisted of kicking a ball around in the street, mucking about in the local woods and, if you were very LUCKY, having a bike you could ride.

As for the fashion-statement trainers, we considered ourselves lucky if we got new clothes or shoes at all, rather than an older brother's hand-me-downs as he grew out of them. And despite Dad being decently paid, Mum was watching the pennies all the time because if she didn't go carefully with the budget at the beginning of the week, we didn't eat at the end of the week.

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This is too true too. Ok, im not that old, but still i just played in the woods, rode around on my bike, played on my nintendo (original) and played footie over some fields. These days if you dont have a mobile, latest bling bling and god knows what else you're looked down upon.

We get skally kids round here (read: townies again) who shout abuse at students for "having lots of free money" or "you've got everything" (i took out the panda's), yet, if they TRIED to make something of themselves in life they would EASILY be in the same position. People arent that stupid - it just takes some effort to get somewhere.
Unfortunatly, what goes around, comes around 9/10 times.

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There is absolutely NO WAY IN LIVING HELL im giving the government my PERSONAL biometric data. I dont give 2 pandas what they do with my other details (bank, dob details, my life etc) but what makes me, ME is something i hold close and personal, not to be on some government list somewhere (which will probably end up floating around the web in time, cmon, everything else gets hacked these days) for all to look at.

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In the McDonalds in Workington, some young lads were fired because a little boy developed a rash around his mouth after eating a Big Mac -- when they ran tests on the food they discovered someone had rubbishrubbishrubbishrubbishrubbished into the mayonaise.

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HAHAHA I heard about that... I work for the neighbouring council and Environmental Health told someone about it... LOL

oh and

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Workington is the dump of the North-West anyway.

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Best nightlife in the north-west too tho

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Originally posted by Bindibadgi
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There is absolutely NO WAY IN LIVING HELL im giving the government my PERSONAL biometric data. I dont give 2 pandas what they do with my other details (bank, dob details, my life etc) but what makes me, ME is something i hold close and personal, not to be on some government list somewhere (which will probably end up floating around the web in time, cmon, everything else gets hacked these days) for all to look at.

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theye alredy goot mine mate....dna, fingerprintss, phto. b*stard coppers. it feels soo invasivve of em man.

I think the only way we're actually going to stop all this crime happening is to treat the offenders in the same way. Whether they are 13 or 31. 6 months in a young offenders jail should sort them out.

This will only work if young offenders jails become more like punishment and less like summer camp where you can play on the playstation, watch TV and sometimes have a better standard of living than at home.

Ben

You know what I find even more amazing and I am very confused about ?? - The ppl in these places are LETTING themselves be ruled by these little bar stewards instead of doing something about it.

No, I aint talking about beating the hell out of kids but the moment you let them "win" (back down, just let it happen etc) is the moment you have lost and you may as well move.

If these kids are big enough to go stealing and vandalising ppl's property (and if it were MY grandparents etc they were doing it to) then they are big enough to get firstly a SOLID warning then, if it continues, following up those warnings/threats.


I would NEVER let any little rubbishrubbishrubbishrubbishrubbishrubbishs like this run the place I lived and I find it quite shocking that out of the probable hundreds of RESPONSIBLE ADULTS that populate these areas do NOTHING about it mostly cause its not them thats being targeted so they dont wanna get involved which, IMHO, is as bad as condoning what the kids are doing.



Its totally natural for kids to "push the boundaries" so they can see whats going to happen. Whats needed is for ppl to put thyem back into their place when they go too far....

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Originally posted by Punky
theye alredy goot mine mate....dna, fingerprintss, phto. b*stard coppers. it feels soo invasivve of em man.

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:) good job i havent done anything wrong then :)

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Originally posted by Bindibadgi
Aint that the absolute truth.

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Life sucks unfortunately but its not always that way i suppose. Its just seems that if you do evrything right you finish behind those who cba anyway :(

Well i help out the elderly ( my mums a wrden so i live with them) i dont drink smoke or do drugs, i have no criminal reccord and im well beheaved and not abusive (Haveing been suverly bulolied and nearly killed :() im only 16 so we are not all bad :(:(:(:(

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Originally posted by Jcb33
Well i help out the elderly ( my mums a wrden so i live with them) i dont drink smoke or do drugs, i have no criminal reccord and im well beheaved and not abusive (Haveing been suverly bulolied and nearly killed :() im only 16 so we are not all bad :(:(:(:(

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Hey, i rarely drink (been there done that), i dont take drugs (even though i have weed thrown in my face most days) and i dont have a criminal record either. Its not all bad, its about what you want todo not what everyone else expects of you. I find i get more respect from people doing my own thing.

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I dont give 2 pandas what they do with my other details

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Looks like the panda's are catching on...

In answer the posts question: Yes
Thay are allowed to take public liberties. you could argue they would be stupid not to take advantage of it :eek:

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Originally posted by 3Dfx
I live in Cumbria, (Lake District area) in a suburb of Workington.

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A fellow Cumbrian :)

Seaton has always been pretty rough tho, but I too have noticed when I have been back home that the area seems to be getting worse :(. Which is a shame because it is a nice part of the World to live in it seems that as usual the few spoil it for the many :mad:

yes it is nice.. nice mountains etc (I sound SOOO boring and old) and workington is getting a face-lift.

But these little Panda's are messing it up for everyone.

WTF??? Why do I keep seeing 'Panda's?
I feel like were going for the surreal feel this week on Hexus!

Im Panda'ing using Panda's as a way to censor the swearing.

For Panda sake

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Originally posted by 3Dfx
Im Panda'ing using Panda's as a way to censor the swearing.

For Panda sake

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Is it you that's done it to the whole of this thread?

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Originally posted by Big RICHARD
Is it you that's done it to the whole of this thread?

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The first few posts panda'd up, and posted pandas in their posts so they were changed to pandas. I change my own panda's though, and i think everyone else has caught on too, cause its kinda funny XD

Personally I always hate the fact that the media seems to think that geeks and goths are a huge problem. (sorry to refer to the two groups like that!). Geeks play violent computer games that involve killing things (oh shock horror) so they must be bad, Goths are just so /strange/ so they must be bad.

Every single person from both groups that I have ever met have been nicer people than most of the 'yob' culture which seems to premeate out society now. (alright, some of the goths have been very, very strange and possibly a danger to themselves, but not too anyone else - and some of the geeks could have got out a bit more, but they seemed to be happy)

It's like the shottings in that US school - two kids get bullied to hell, so they borrow some of daddies arsenal and shoot the place up - what do the media blame? Bullying being rife? Too easy access to guns? No - blame computer games....

Stopping rant now....

I think a lot of the problems are due to the changes in society happening far faster than ever before - for the first time it's common for a 25 year old to be earning more than a 40 year old.

Yes, its bad parenting pure and simple. At work i see so many parents with little kids and they let them run wild, thrw thing around run behind counter annoy other customers/staff destroy diplays. What makes it worse is that when we tell the parents to control their child we often get the responce 'don't tell me how to raise my child'. Even had a mum come in and her 6 year old was swearing like nothing on earth and she didnt care! I hate to think what these kids are going to be like when they were older, and what THEIR kids are going to be like. Some poeple should not be allowed to have children. They are ruining society.

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and i think everyone else has caught on too, cause its kinda funny XD

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Damn right its funny... i made it up so its gotta be funny :D lol

So, we gotta start a new trend, no swear words... only Panda's.

Technically Goths stay away from stuff they like to not be noticed (but they wear VERY noticable clothes s i dont get that) and Geeks are too busy on comuter games... Yobs usally had parents who stay out drinking when they were like 11 so the "yobs" had to fend for themselves... staying out on the streets until whatever time cos their parents were drunk in a pub somewhere... so their on the streets causing trouble ... smashing windows, having "sex" lol, and graphity (I cant spell the word)

Oh and yes I changed all the Panda's

panda's????:confused:

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Originally posted by Rythmic
Personally I always hate the fact that the media seems to think that geeks and goths are a huge problem. (sorry to refer to the two groups like that!). Geeks play violent computer games that involve killing things (oh shock horror) so they must be bad, Goths are just so /strange/ so they must be bad.

Every single person from both groups that I have ever met have been nicer people than most of the 'yob' culture which seems to premeate out society now. (alright, some of the goths have been very, very strange and possibly a danger to themselves, but not too anyone else - and some of the geeks could have got out a bit more, but they seemed to be happy)

It's like the shottings in that US school - two kids get bullied to hell, so they borrow some of daddies arsenal and shoot the place up - what do the media blame? Bullying being rife? Too easy access to guns? No - blame computer games....

Stopping rant now....

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TOTALLY! I know quite a few goths and they are all alright. Some are a little dangerous to themselves but its their life at the end of the day. (Goths make me laugh, they dress to be anti-fashion and anti-society yet they all look alike. HAHAHA).

And they dont blame retarded kids who think they are really rappers or gangsters etc who endorse guns, they blame FICTIONAL video games and movies which only exist virtually. Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together knows the difference between the real world and the fictional virtual reality of movies and games. Its not the fact that guns were there to get hold of too either, oh no.

got beaten yesterday by a gang of 9 or so 15 year olds \o/

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panda's????

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U being Panda'ist?

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Originally posted by 3Dfx
U being Panda'ist?

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Yea he's being a Pandaering Panda. :mad:






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No Panda

So basically... Teenagers are getting worse and uness the government stops being Panda's then its just gonna kep getting worse and the country will deterierate. This goes for motorists too.. Caught speeding, 3points £60 fine... £60?!?!?! Should be £100and 3 points. and if ur speeding more than 30mph over the limit £200 fine and 6 points.