Should we have the power?

[acidrainy]

The Story
There is a tattoo parlour that is now shut down that was not open for anything more than 2 months....

The reason given... there might be a spread of AIDS from the needles used in the parlour and the shop was closed down as a safety measure

Sure enough some of you might say. You wouldn't want the risk of aids from having a tattoo done....


The Truth
Sadly the truth is far from the previous story. The owner of the parlour was an extremely talented artist. In the short time he had been running the parlour he had grown a very high reputation of his skills with a needle. This high expectation was too much for a certain individual though.....

As the new client was getting her tattoo done she could not be more happy. In a short while she will have a dolphin on her arm, done by one of the best tattoo artists around. Afterwords past the scabbing etc she thought to herself... I'm not happy with this tattoo, its not what i expected.

Fair enough someone with a tattoo that is not happy with it has a right to complain. So she set about getting her complaint know, doing so with a lawyer. After many talk with the lawyer she found out that she could get an independent body to test all the customer of the parlour dating back to its opening tested for HIV and AIDS. Great she though, this will kill his reputation!

She was exactly right, as a result people got the false impression that a genuine case for blood tests at this parlour meant that there was a huge risk in contracting either of the two diseases. This sent the Artist out of business in only a few days of its outbreak in news...

An innocent man, forced to close his shop because of a false reputation given to him by someone who effectively had second thought about getting a tattoo....


Should people have the power to do this to an individual?
Should there have to be proof to make such an accusation?

I will say that as far as I'm aware, almost anyone can request this action to be taken out in such organisations, even if there is little or no evidence to back this claim..

[Knoxville]

One person should have this power, but it should be investigated without the publics knowledge and tainting peoples reputations

[acidrainy]

Originally posted by Knoxville
One person should have this power, but it should be investigated without the publics knowledge and tainting peoples reputations

Should they be able to request this action on the fly as it was effectively taken here?
There is no way you can hide from the public people being asked to take blood tests after taking a trip to a tattoo parlour...
Suspicion for one has to be the fastest rummer to move around..

[Knoxville]

Well its a more difficult situation with the bloodtests etc. But yes i think one person should have the right to request an investigation, if you had for instance, had a tatoo done there and it had actually gone wrong and you were worried about the standards and cleanliness of the place you'd want to be able to force investigation wouldn't you?

You may have no proof but you'd be concerned, plus you may not be able to get others to agree with you, so yes, one person should be able to force an investigation into the dealings/standards of ANY company imo

[acidrainy]

I still think it was unfair for her to use that as an excuse because of her dissatisfaction with her tattoo.. (somehow the grammar seems wrong, oh well you know what i mean )

Although I see your point, we should have this option... I just feel that it appears this can be abused to a very high degree and very easily

[TiG]

How can you proove this, sounds to me like your view on this is rather tainted too.

I'd like to hear both sides of the arguement from the horses mouth before people make judgements.

TiG

[oddytomtom]

its a shame things like this can happen with people wanting other people out,

its known that before you have the tattoo you should ask around to see what places are good and talk to the dude who does the tattoo about the things he can do to stop it,

but i suppose there is no help for a tattoo artist if anyone wants him shut

[Punky]

she should have had a test done on herself for HIV/AIDS, and if it came back positive, then have been able to order an investigation. just because she's disatisified with her tatoo doens't mean she should have the right to put some talented guy outta business. there needs to be concrete evidence against the person before an investigation can start to find more stuff.

[Stoo]

Innocent until proven guilty? Whats that?

There are ways to check a tattoo parlour's etc health practices (AFAIK it's actually a requirement for running a tattoo parlour in certain locations) without testing half the clientel for aids/HIV, Hepatitus etc.
Besides the incubation time would make it difficult, and the fact that you'd have to screen the clientel to rule out prior infection..

It's a similar thing to the whole John Leslie case at the moment, an accusation that was allowed to become public information before the true facts were known, and the allegation ruins their lives.
IMHO things like this where just the allegation alone can ruin the accused lives, all the details should be kept private until everything is fully investigated and a proper ruling can be made.

[oddytomtom]

exactly thats ruined john leslies life now things like that are never forgoten, did you know its cost him some like 2 million

i think all investigations should be kept fully quiet

[bertie]

Yeah, John Leslie was vilified by the press, shown to be an absolute monster. Yet now all the charges are being dropped what has he got left? Sadly this is what the press does :/

[Wiffle_BMXer]

i think a person should be able to comlain and stuff... but there should a big investigation into it.. like testing of all the needles.... and be absolutley positive before shutting the tatoo parlour down..

[Spliff]

Originally posted by acidrainy
[B]After many talk with the lawyer she found out that she could get an independent body to test all the customer of the parlour dating back to its opening tested for HIV and AIDS.

Er...is that with or without the permission of said people? No country in the world has juris prudence so warped as to allow an individual member of the public, disgruntled or otherwise, to force multiple people into having medical tests surely?!

[acidrainy]

it never went to court..... i dont know the full story but i know the person didn't have to do much....

As far I know the tests were Optional to take but very few people refused them because of the scare

[acidrainy]

Originally posted by TiG
How can you proove this, sounds to me like your view on this is rather tainted too.

I'd like to hear both sides of the arguement from the horses mouth before people make judgements.

TiG

The other side of the story was told.... This was on local news a while back... In an interview the woman in question revieled that it was becuase she did not like her tatoo when asked to why she took such a move regarding a possible spread of STD's

Saying that, apparantly she got off scott free...

[acidrainy]

John Lesly, Mathew Kelly..... The press seem to have far too much power in the way of bringing down everything any honest person has build for themselves in their lifetime.....

True it might not be primarily the media's fault, after all they just report stories to make a quick buck here and there. It just seems as if they are only too willing to be used as a tool by people with a grudge to bring peoples lives to their knees...