erm...security problem?

[shiato storm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Uv45y6vkcQ

http://www.toool.nl/bumping.pdf#search=%22bump%20key%22

scarey stuff...why no one's done anything about it might be of some concern...

[leeglf]

thats proper scary might aswell leave our doors open!

[BUFF]

so stick to a good lever rather than cylinder lock ...

[chuckskull]

Just buy a german shephard. My back door is rarely locked. Even people who aren't scared of dogs back away when he stands up.

just another scare story though, you have more to worry about from being ****ed by the insurance than by burgled.

[Spud1]

Well this is the thing - 'bump' keys etc are no more of a problem than locksmiths etc have ever been. All that locks (and almost every security measure in this country) do is prevent against casual crime - the opportunist/local guy having a go. If a criminal wants to get into your house s/he will do it - either hiring a locksmith or smashing their way in...

You are never going to be protected against serious criminals Best thing is to just not worry about it..

[G4Z]

and get insurance....

[shiato storm]

and get insurance....

which is the point about bumping, insurance claims are impossible as theres no signs of forced entry....

[Spud1]

which is the point about bumping, insurance claims are impossible as theres no signs of forced entry....

Which is also the case in key theft/cloning, carding old locks etc

From that article (and reading around a bit now) bumping seems to normally leave some sort of evidence anyway - lock damage etc.

I still really wouldn't worry about this though, not a new thing, nothings changed - except that we now know about it..

[Mike Fishcake]

Just buy a german shephard.

I fail to see how a person who is employed to herd sheep could prevent someone breaking and entering.

I'm sorry, I'm so, so sorry

[mart_haj86]

I fail to see how you have an inability to tell the difference between a person and a canine.

Edit: Oh dammit I misread the sentence

[XA04]

Saw this a couple of weeks ago, interesting!

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From that article (and reading around a bit now) bumping seems to normally leave some sort of evidence anyway - lock damage etc.

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No. The bump key doesn't usually leave any evidence behind, that's why people are worried when it comes to insurance.

The only possible evidence the bump key could leave behind is the mark where the shoulder of the key hits the lock.. and even then if you have a good strong proper lock it won't show up (cheap locks with softer metals will though if the person bumping the lock isn't careful).

[Bazzlad]

My Great Dane ensures Bazz beats Bumpkeyers

[chuckskull]

I fail to see how a person who is employed to herd sheep could prevent someone breaking and entering.

I'm sorry, I'm so, so sorry

If you broke into a house and there was a 'german shephard' lying on the floor chewing his ass, you'd leave wouldn't you

[BenW]

Maybe we should just use our alarm systems!?

Also, asuming you get back to your burgled house before anyone else you could break in yourself