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    Question New Graphics for new PC - any ideas?

    Hello,

    I was wondering if you could help.
    I'm bascially building a new pc in the next couple of weeks, and i want it to be powerful (quad core, 4gb ram etc) but i'm not sure what graphics card to get.

    I don't play games but i want the card to cope with HD video content with high vid resolution.

    Could you please recommend a card for me? My budget is about £100 but maybe that's too much?
    I've been looking geforce 8600 gt, which seems ok? but reviews here suggest its a little costly for what it does?

    Any help will be much appreciated.

    Thanks
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    Re: New Graphics for new PC - any ideas?

    Anything less than an 8800GT seems a waste in such a system. The 8800GT is available for relative peanuts now. No brainer for me.

    eg £108

    PNY GeForce 8800 GT 512MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail

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    Re: New Graphics for new PC - any ideas?

    There's a couple of 8600 at scan at £45 - £50, awaiting eta but there certainly not cheap for what they do, wait till they get in stock.

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    Re: New Graphics for new PC - any ideas?

    Quote Originally Posted by rick1967 View Post
    Anything less than an 8800GT seems a waste in such a system. The 8800GT is available for relative peanuts now. No brainer for me.
    Sorry Rick1967, but that is absolute nonsense.
    Did you read the post?
    I don't play games but i want the card to cope with HD video content with high vid resolution.
    Why have a gaming card when he doesnt play games?
    No, a lower end 8000 series like a 8600GT is fine, overkill maybe even.

    A Radeon 3450, such as this one for £27 from Scan is designed for up to 1080p high-def video decoding.
    It's cheap, will use minimal electricity, and meet the needs.

    Now, if you fancy playing 3d games aswell, then the card is not for you...
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    Re: New Graphics for new PC - any ideas?

    If you want a powerful multimedia card then I would recommend the 2900gt for £48 delivered from Novatech.

    Than again this is a dual slot card so may not be ideal.
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    Re: New Graphics for new PC - any ideas?

    Mithrandir have you gone mad??
    Name 1 single benefit that you think a 2900gt would have over a 3450.
    And don't mention gaming ability because it's already clear that is not required.

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    Re: New Graphics for new PC - any ideas?

    A HD3450 or HD3650 should be fine.

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    Re: New Graphics for new PC - any ideas?

    Quote Originally Posted by MSIC View Post
    Mithrandir have you gone mad??
    Name 1 single benefit that you think a 2900gt would have over a 3450.
    And don't mention gaming ability because it's already clear that is not required.

    I dunno, someone asks for a cheap run-around vehicle to pop to the local shops in, and people here post back with "Ferrari Mondial would be ideal for your needs...."
    lol.
    Sorry didn't see your post before posting mine.
    The 2900gt has great multimedia capabilities (not gaming wise) but compared with the 3450/3650 probably not so great.
    Wasn't too sure of the 3450/3650 performance.
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    Re: New Graphics for new PC - any ideas?

    S'alright, I expected that you posted without reading LOL
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    Re: New Graphics for new PC - any ideas?

    Thanks for all of your replies, its very helpful,

    now i have an idea of the model, can anyone recommend a brand? Should i go for
    Gigabyte,
    gainward
    xfx
    MSi.......ect...

    And also they appear to have different memory like 256, 512 and even 1gb, I assume the higher the memory the better?

    Also
    Some say they have HDMI and some say HDTV - am i correct in saying that HMDI will be the actual connection and HDTV means that the card has some kind of adapter to connect to a HDMI device?

    Do you think i can get dual DVI with HDMI?

    Thanks again
    Last edited by Pez2; 26-04-2008 at 03:46 PM. Reason: forgot to add HDMI/HDTV info

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    Re: New Graphics for new PC - any ideas?

    The brand itself honestly doesnt matter - they don't make them, all the companies do is get them from the manufacturers, test them a bit, add different ports on, put a nice sticker on, maybe change the heatsink/cooler and add a game or two. The actual board & chips are the same. (Well, there are always exceptions, but you know....)
    I was trying to find one with a native HDMI port on it, and in fact the 8600GT's (like you originally asked about) are about the best ones with those on, however as long as you get a card with "DVI with HDCP" it means that any TV or monitor with a DVI port will allow High Def TV (via Blu-Ray or whatever) to be displayed properly.

    As for memory, DO NOT pay more money for more than 256MB. It is pure marketing and you will get no benefit whatsoever. If a 512MB version is £1 cheaper than a 256MB version then fine, but otherwise steer clear.

    I'd still recommend my first posted suggestion, unless you know that you definitely only need a HDMI port, in which case get this one:
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    Re: New Graphics for new PC - any ideas?

    I'd recommend an ATI card over an NVIDIA one, as they have slightly higher HD video quality.

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    Re: New Graphics for new PC - any ideas?

    Quote Originally Posted by MSIC View Post
    Sorry Rick1967, but that is absolute nonsense.
    Did you read the post?

    Why have a gaming card when he doesnt play games?
    No, a lower end 8000 series like a 8600GT is fine, overkill maybe even.

    A Radeon 3450, such as this one for £27 from Scan is designed for up to 1080p high-def video decoding.
    It's cheap, will use minimal electricity, and meet the needs.

    Now, if you fancy playing 3d games aswell, then the card is not for you...
    Of course I read the post. He was looking at 8600GT's and was willing to spend up to £100. I pointed out an 8800GT for £8 over budget. A much better card for very little extra and in a totally different league to any of the others mentioned.

    This is a reasonable option and matches the rest of his system well. Hell, we might as well say forget about quad core as hardly any applications make use of 4 core multi-threading.

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    Re: New Graphics for new PC - any ideas?

    Execpt for things like photoshop, infact there are more non-games that will use the 4 cores than games.
    esp when multitasking, I don't know about others but I don't tend to run other things while playing a game.

    And a 8800GT is only a better card for 3d applications (eg games) I'm not fully sure what the 8800gt is like on encodeing but the 8600gt was better than the old 8800gts for that.
    The 8600gt like the one MSIC linked has built in HDMI output that you'll not find on a 8800gt

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    Re: New Graphics for new PC - any ideas?

    A different approach would be to go for a AMD 780G based motherboard, eschewing the need for a graphics card altogether, while leaving the option to upgrade at a later date - it even has Hybrid Graphic Technology (it uses a sort of Crossfire to combine the efforts of the onboard and any extra ATI graphics card in it, afaik).

    Unfortunately, it's limited to the faltering Phenom CPU line, though you can now pick up a triple core for around £100. For a budget video-oriented desktop, it's a decent option - it all depends on the applications you use.

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