Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 16 of 31

Thread: Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

  1. #1
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    291
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

    I'm Running a:

    PK5
    4 GIG Ram
    8800 GTX
    Quad Core 2.5 clocked to 3.0
    26" Monitor
    Windows XP SP3

    I'm basically getting thrown out of Games, e.g. WoW with the same error "The memory could not be read"

    All my drivers are upto date the pc is as good as gold when not running any games but I'm getting these crashes to the point where it is unplayable almost every 10-15 mins or so.

    I've tried various display drivers and get the same results, I've done a virus/spyware search etc but I'm still having the problems.

    I can only think it's either a ram issue or it's the heat.

    A while back my GPU was running at 80-85 under full load (idle at 60-65) this was on a 22" monitor and I was getting regular crashes so I got a massive heatsink put on it with 2 fans from Vadim, since I've had it back I upgraded to a 26" monitor and I'm idling now at 50-57 and under load I'm at 70-75. It appears to crash whenever I hit the 75 temp mark or go around there, not straight away but that's when it tends to happen and the crash is totally random.

    The improved cooling I've got has reduced the temps somewhat but it would appear not enough, I've taken the side of my case off and am considering just getting a desk fan pointed at the GPU until I can sort this but this isn't the answer long term.

    I've done a few searches on this issue and there doesn't really seem to be a conclusive fix, I've even tried to set the priority to high in task manager and give it a single core affinity but no change.

    I'm using Nvidia's Monitor View to record the temps and I've got all my fans set to 100% for max cooling but I really don't know what to do.

    Other posts say 70-75 under load is way too hot but I have no idea how to get it down, the problem isn't helped that room has another pc in it and as I work from home it will have a laptop on as well sometimes so it's very warm in the room and not helped by the summer heat.

    I was considering looking at getting one of those aircon unit but as it's a small room at best and to have a big hulking thing like that and then the big exhaust tube sticking outside the door is far from ideal, and again I don't really want to get this if it's not really a heat issue plus the wife would go ape.

    I'm guessing I should run a memtest overnight and see if I get any errors to rule out the RAM? or would it be just easier to just take out one of the Ram sticks each time and try it till it crashes, then replace that stick and try another?

    Any help/idea's would me most helpful on this.

    *edit I can post my crash log and a Hijack this log if it helps?

    Thanks

  2. #2
    Jay
    Jay is offline
    Gentlemen.. we're history Jay's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Jita
    Posts
    8,364
    Thanks
    304
    Thanked
    568 times in 409 posts
    • Jay's system
      • Motherboard:
      • ASUS P5Q Deluxe
      • CPU:
      • Intel Q6600 G0 @ 3.0GHz with Corsair H50
      • Memory:
      • 8GB Corsair XMS Pro DDR2 800MHz 5-5-5-12
      • Storage:
      • 128GB Crucial RealSSD
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire VaporX HD4890 1GB
      • PSU:
      • 720W Enermax Infinity
      • Case:
      • Fractal Design Define R3 Black Pearl
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 7 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2 x Samsung 22" 226BW V2 (3360 x 1050)
      • Internet:
      • O2 / Cisco ASA 5505

    Re: Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

    If you are running a 32 bit OS then you are not getting the most from your 4 gig. Your error could be to do with your overclock. Is your FSB and memory 1:1? What voltage and timings have you used?
    □ΞVΞ□

  3. #3
    Banhammer in peace PeterB kalniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    29,235
    Thanks
    1,526
    Thanked
    2,946 times in 2,387 posts
    • kalniel's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte X58A UD3R rev 2
      • CPU:
      • Intel Xeon X5680
      • Memory:
      • 12gb DDR3 2000
      • Graphics card(s):
      • nVidia GTX 1060 6GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic 600W
      • Case:
      • Cooler Master HAF 912
      • Operating System:
      • Win 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2311H
      • Internet:
      • O2 8mbps

    Re: Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

    I would start by dropping to 2gb and going back to stock speeds. If you still have a problem then post back.

  4. #4
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    291
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

    Well I didn't set up on the timing and oc speeds, Vadim did.

    With their reputation I do trust them to have done it correctly however that's not to say it could be causing complications down the line.

    I'll be honest I have no idea about overclocking I wouldn't even know how to do it or undo it. I have no idea either about FSB or voltage/timings.

    I'm only getting 3.25 GIG mem in XP, so should I take 1 stick of Ram out at time and see if I have a bad stick or is that a bad idea?

  5. #5
    Banhammer in peace PeterB kalniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    29,235
    Thanks
    1,526
    Thanked
    2,946 times in 2,387 posts
    • kalniel's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte X58A UD3R rev 2
      • CPU:
      • Intel Xeon X5680
      • Memory:
      • 12gb DDR3 2000
      • Graphics card(s):
      • nVidia GTX 1060 6GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic 600W
      • Case:
      • Cooler Master HAF 912
      • Operating System:
      • Win 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2311H
      • Internet:
      • O2 8mbps

    Re: Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

    Ah sorry, I didn't realise the whole thing was a Vadim computer - best thing would be go directly to them for support in that case, so that you can maintain warranty etc.

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    291
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

    Well that's the thing, it's been back to them, supposedly they put more cooling on it but since I've had it back the problem has not improved and this after a fresh install of windows !!

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    291
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

    Update, ran memtest, got lots of errors, not a good thing.

    So at least I know the cause of the problem is the Ram, only thing is I'm not fully sure what it's telling me and how I correct it.

    Is it due to just bad ram or are the timings wrong etc.

    Here's some screenshots of the test, does it make sense to anyone?



    And


  8. #8
    Senior Member Pob255's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    The land of Brum
    Posts
    9,945
    Thanks
    572
    Thanked
    1,196 times in 1,099 posts
    • Pob255's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus M5A99X EVO
      • CPU:
      • PhenomII x4 955 & CM Hyper 212+
      • Memory:
      • 2x 4gb Corsair Vengence 1600mhz cas9
      • Storage:
      • 250gb SATA Westerndigital + 500gb samsung +1tb Samsung
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus GTX560ti CuII
      • PSU:
      • Be Quiet E9 680w
      • Case:
      • HAF 912+
      • Operating System:
      • W7 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 21" ips something

    Re: Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

    Well as you got a pre overclocked system from Vadim take it back and complain.
    Ether the memory is bad or it's been clocked past it's ability to cope, the reason Why you get problems on games is that they are memory intensive (especially MMOs)
    You could probably improve it your self by changeing the setting in the BIOS however you stated you don't know how to and more importantly you paid for an overclocked system so it's on Vadim to fix it.
    Last edited by Pob255; 07-07-2008 at 03:04 PM.

  9. #9
    Anthropomorphic Personification shaithis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2004
    Location
    The Last Aerie
    Posts
    10,839
    Thanks
    645
    Thanked
    871 times in 735 posts
    • shaithis's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus P8Z77 WS
      • CPU:
      • i7 3770k @ 4.5GHz
      • Memory:
      • 32GB HyperX 1866
      • Storage:
      • Lots!
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Sapphire Fury X
      • PSU:
      • Corsair HX850
      • Case:
      • Corsair 600T (White)
      • Operating System:
      • Windows 10 x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • 2 x Dell 3007
      • Internet:
      • Zen 80Mb Fibre

    Re: Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

    Just set the system clocks back to default and test again......if it passes, then you know its the overclock.

    If it still fails, start removing 1 stick of RAM at a time and then re-run the tests.

    Troubleshooting is a time-intensive process, there are normally no short-cuts and it normally involves discounting 1 thing at a time as the culprit.
    Main PC: Asus Rampage IV Extreme / 3960X@4.5GHz / Antec H1200 Pro / 32GB DDR3-1866 Quad Channel / Sapphire Fury X / Areca 1680 / 850W EVGA SuperNOVA Gold 2 / Corsair 600T / 2x Dell 3007 / 4 x 250GB SSD + 2 x 80GB SSD / 4 x 1TB HDD (RAID 10) / Windows 10 Pro, Yosemite & Ubuntu
    HTPC: AsRock Z77 Pro 4 / 3770K@4.2GHz / 24GB / GTX 1080 / SST-LC20 / Antec TP-550 / Hisense 65k5510 4K TV / HTC Vive / 2 x 240GB SSD + 12TB HDD Space / Race Seat / Logitech G29 / Win 10 Pro
    HTPC2: Asus AM1I-A / 5150 / 4GB / Corsair Force 3 240GB / Silverstone SST-ML05B + ST30SF / Samsung UE60H6200 TV / Windows 10 Pro
    Spare/Loaner: Gigabyte EX58-UD5 / i950 / 12GB / HD7870 / Corsair 300R / Silverpower 700W modular
    NAS 1: HP N40L / 12GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Arrays || NAS 2: Dell PowerEdge T110 II / 24GB ECC RAM / 2 x 3TB Hybrid arrays || Network:Buffalo WZR-1166DHP w/DD-WRT + HP ProCurve 1800-24G
    Laptop: Lenovo Flex 2 / 12GB RAM / 240GB Corsair Force 3 Printer: HP CP1515n || Phone: HTC One U11 || Other: Samsung Galaxy Tab 4 Pro 10.1 CM12.1 / Playstation 4 + G29 + 2TB Hybrid drive

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    291
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

    Well Vadim have just gone bust as of today so there goes all my comeback, not sure if I should laugh or cry !!!

  11. #11
    Senior Member Pob255's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    The land of Brum
    Posts
    9,945
    Thanks
    572
    Thanked
    1,196 times in 1,099 posts
    • Pob255's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Asus M5A99X EVO
      • CPU:
      • PhenomII x4 955 & CM Hyper 212+
      • Memory:
      • 2x 4gb Corsair Vengence 1600mhz cas9
      • Storage:
      • 250gb SATA Westerndigital + 500gb samsung +1tb Samsung
      • Graphics card(s):
      • Asus GTX560ti CuII
      • PSU:
      • Be Quiet E9 680w
      • Case:
      • HAF 912+
      • Operating System:
      • W7 Pro
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell 21" ips something

    Re: Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

    Ouch

    well looks like your going to have to bite the bullet then and start digging around in the BIOS.

    My 1st advice is start to read up on BIOS's it's often not as complex as it looks at first and most of the options can be left on there default settings.
    Also have a look at the C2D overclocking thread the same stuff basically applies to the quad core as well.
    http://forums.hexus.net/hexus-hardwa...beginners.html

  12. #12
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    291
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

    Cheers m8, I basically need a way to reset it to it default setting then memtest to see if the RAM is bad at stock speeds or if its just an overclock issue.

    Last night I ran memtest and got RAM errors after 10 mins, I've taken 1 stick out so far ran for 20 mins and no error.

    Dunno if I've just got lucky or not?

    One thing I did notice was the RAM was redhot when I touched it, wondering if it is overheating that's causing the RAM to fail perhaps?

  13. #13
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    291
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

    Well major disaster, came to the pc this morning and it won't post.

    Totally dead, have checked all connections tried reseting the CMOS but I have no idea what has happened.

    Im totally screwed as Vadim went bust yesterday and I have a £2000 rig here which is now useless.

    No idea what to do or who to turn to, I don't have the knowledge myself to rebuild it either.

    I'm guessing I need to go to the yellow pages and reach for a pc expert ??!!

  14. #14
    Banhammer in peace PeterB kalniel's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    29,235
    Thanks
    1,526
    Thanked
    2,946 times in 2,387 posts
    • kalniel's system
      • Motherboard:
      • Gigabyte X58A UD3R rev 2
      • CPU:
      • Intel Xeon X5680
      • Memory:
      • 12gb DDR3 2000
      • Graphics card(s):
      • nVidia GTX 1060 6GB
      • PSU:
      • Seasonic 600W
      • Case:
      • Cooler Master HAF 912
      • Operating System:
      • Win 10 Pro x64
      • Monitor(s):
      • Dell U2311H
      • Internet:
      • O2 8mbps

    Re: Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

    If you need it quickly then yup. Otherwise we can take you through the various stages to test etc. but obivously it'll be slower. Also Vadim may still have something in place to deal with existing warranty/service requests.

    Describe exactly what happens when you push the power button - any beeps? Any fans whirring at all?

  15. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    291
    Thanks
    16
    Thanked
    0 times in 0 posts

    Re: Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

    Power on the pc, fans go round lights come on inside the case etc.

    But that's it no beeps no nothing.

    No picture on screen either.

    Have checked all connections have re-seated GPU and reset CMOS jumper and Battery too

    No difference, it just won't post at all.

    I have emailed Vadim but Im really not confident.

  16. #16
    Registered+
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Warrington
    Posts
    16
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked
    1 time in 1 post

    Re: Is GPU heat the cause of my crashing problems

    That does not sound good, for it not even to provide a post bleep As that typically means something is loose onboard or has failed.

    Have you tried removing all the ram and seeing if it bleeps when you try to turn it back on?

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. IP35 problems
    By MrP in forum abit.care@HEXUS
    Replies: 12
    Last Post: 23-11-2007, 02:59 PM
  2. Stability Problems? Overclocking Problems? - Check This Out First!
    By Clunk in forum PC Hardware and Components
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 01-09-2007, 11:45 PM
  3. Games problems with my new system
    By parad0x in forum SCAN.care@HEXUS
    Replies: 34
    Last Post: 25-06-2007, 11:32 AM
  4. Real problems with XFX GeForce 6600GT AGP
    By Mutley in forum Graphics Cards
    Replies: 17
    Last Post: 06-05-2007, 01:15 AM
  5. My experience with Windows XP Pro x64 Edition
    By Paul Adams in forum Software
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 20-04-2007, 11:59 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •