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    Has anyone used one of these 9800 GTX+ models yet?

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?W...+DVI-I%2f+HDTV

    It's the scan model with a weird heatsink on it. I'd like a 9800 GTX+ but the standard ones just wont fit mySugo case.

    However, these unusual heatsinks worry me for noise and efficiency

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    Re: Has anyone used one of these 9800 GTX+ models yet?

    If it is the one shown in the picture (not guaranteed) then it is an Xpertvision or Palit (same company now) card

    http://www.palit.biz/main/vgapro.php?id=773
    http://www.xpertvision.com.tw/main/vgapro.php?id=170

    Not a lot of info there and I have not found a review for either of them using the non-stock cooler.

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    Re: Has anyone used one of these 9800 GTX+ models yet?

    Just found this review and while it is not for the 9800GTX+ with the non-stock cooler it does cover palits 4850 Sonic which uses the same cooler (from a visual inspection).

    http://www.pureoverclock.com/review.php?id=667&page=1

    Quote Originally Posted by Page 16 above review
    While the reference ATI cards have been notoriously hot, this has not been the case with the 4850 Sonic; its custom cooler has been extremely successful in reducing temperatures on the card. The Sonic is also far quieter than the reference fan. ...with the Sonic pulling ahead with 40°C idle / 61° load temperatures.
    So would seem it should be a reasonable cooler as long as their definition of far quieter is the same as yours!

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    Re: Has anyone used one of these 9800 GTX+ models yet?

    thanksWebby

    nicefind dude

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    Re: Has anyone used one of these 9800 GTX+ models yet?

    quite a risk, but this could be the card for me

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    Re: Has anyone used one of these 9800 GTX+ models yet?

    Nah Zak get this:
    http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/s....html?NOV-4870

    Or if you wait a bit, I will probably order one of these soon, so I can tell you if its good
    edit: I will be moving from a standard 9800gtx
    credit to original poster here
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    Re: Has anyone used one of these 9800 GTX+ models yet?

    Bargain! Wanders off to add the new bargain price to the which graphics card shall I buy thread.

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    Re: Has anyone used one of these 9800 GTX+ models yet?

    http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?75195

    just found this article. Seems as though there are 2 lengths of 9800 GTX+ pcb

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    Re: Has anyone used one of these 9800 GTX+ models yet?

    Yeah the Scan one (which is Palit/xpertvision btw) is a shorter board as well. A few manufacturers will create their own PCB designs after a while Palit/Xpertvision/Gainward (all the same company!) are notorious for it and Sapphire do it a fair bit for ATi cards the only problems come when they remove something that is not important to their design (like fan controls!) and you akso do not know how it will perform compared to the reference design, could be better or could be worse.

    The other problem comes when you want to watercool as non-stock PCBs are hardly (if ever) supported for full cover blocks.

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    Re: Has anyone used one of these 9800 GTX+ models yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Webby View Post
    Yeah the Scan one (which is Palit/xpertvision btw) is a shorter board as well. A few manufacturers will create their own PCB designs after a while Palit/Xpertvision/Gainward (all the same company!) are notorious for it and Sapphire do it a fair bit for ATi cards the only problems come when they remove something that is not important to their design (like fan controls!) and you akso do not know how it will perform compared to the reference design, could be better or could be worse.

    The other problem comes when you want to watercool as non-stock PCBs are hardly (if ever) supported for full cover blocks.
    this will teach me to fall in love with a SFF case that I wont part from. I'd love a GTX 260 but it wont fit so I'm looking for love somewhere else

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    Re: Has anyone used one of these 9800 GTX+ models yet?

    Well looking at it the plait one looked shorter than reference as well, still I'm not really all that surprised if you look at a pic of the 9800gtx+ without it's giant cooler the board does look very bare.

    I think they made it so big for two basic reasons.
    1 to make room for the giant (censored) cooler
    2 to make it bigger than the 8800gts 512, we cannot have the new gtx card (which is just an overclocked, reduced size, g92) be smaller than the old gts, can we.


    You might want to look at the Asus 9800gt "ultimate"
    saw a review of that before, what asus did was use up there stock of 8800gts g92, by overclocking the heck out of them and rebranding them as 9800gt (unlike others who were rebranding there, 8800gt)

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    Re: Has anyone used one of these 9800 GTX+ models yet?

    Pair of 4850s? and obviously a DFI P45 Jr so you can crossfire them (you didn't want any other expansion cards did you ), oh and maybe a bigger PSU.

    Hmm this could potentially be an expensive upgrade!

    Q. What is the max size a card can be to fit in the Sugo?
    A. 9.6"

    Edit: As a rough guide to reference PCBs I found this on Silverstone's site

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX280/260 -10.5”
    NVIDIA GeForce 9800GTX/9800GTX+ -10.5”
    AMD Radeon HD 4870X2 -10.5”
    NVIDIA GeForce 9800GT/9600GT/GTO – 9”
    AMD Radeon HD 4870/4850 -9”

    So if it is a length issue then the 4870 is a good chunk shorter and could be what you need, nVidia wise your stuffed!
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    Re: Has anyone used one of these 9800 GTX+ models yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Webby View Post
    Edit: As a rough guide to reference PCBs I found this on Silverstone's site

    NVIDIA GeForce GTX280/260 -10.5”
    NVIDIA GeForce 9800GTX/9800GTX+ -10.5”
    AMD Radeon HD 4870X2 -10.5”
    NVIDIA GeForce 9800GT/9600GT/GTO – 9”
    AMD Radeon HD 4870/4850 -9”

    So if it is a length issue then the 4870 is a good chunk shorter and could be what you need, nVidia wise your stuffed!
    that's proper good info, cheers Webby.

    The GTX+ is still possible cos of the newer small pcb (as discussed)
    The 4870 in out cos I dont think my 400 W PSU will run it, so looks like I'm back to the 4850 or the 9800 GTX+ on a small PCB.

    Silly bloody addiction, computer gaming

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