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    Question Eggs in one basket! Monitor Help!

    Hey guys, im new to this site so Id firstly like to say hey and im here seeking your guidance!

    As the name says im trying to put all my eggs in one basket in terms of getting a new monitor.

    Im currently running a 17" TFT which i use for me PC alone as it just has a VGA port for work, gaming and watching media.

    Im looking to upgrade to a larger monitor, around 22" with multiple functions in the price range in and around of £200

    The Functions Id like to have are:

    VGA / DVI port - for my PC (pref DVI as im guessin i could still use my old monitor running on the VGA port, not sure how that would work in terms of setting it up to recognize 2 monitors! thats a question for another day! )
    HDMI port - for my Xbox360 so i could double it up as VDU for the console
    Scart / Freeview - enabling me to use the monitor as a TV aswell

    I haven't a clue about the current desired tech specs of monitors, ie whats a gd contrast, aspect ratio, refresh rate yada yada, so any shoves in the right direction would be massivly apprieciated, thanks in advance

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    Re: Eggs in one basket! Monitor Help!

    Don't want much for your £200 do you

    You will be unlikely to find a monitor with a Scart input, you can find TVs with D-SUB though.

    Anyway having had a quick gander at Scans monitor selection for a 22" with a range of inputs these 2 look reasonable

    Viewsonic - 1920*1080 (full HD) - £168 - http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=905173...
    Hyundai - 1680*1050 - £195 - http://www.scan.co.uk/Product.aspx?WebProductId=866038...

    Both have advantages and disadvantages, neither have a scart input.

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    Re: Eggs in one basket! Monitor Help!

    How would the viewsonic compare to the LG 22LS4R? the VS one looks really nice and has the connections(AFAIK) so i may get it but would it be worth making the jump to 24" instead?

    Sorry for hijacking your thread a bit, might be in the market for a new monitor and give my LG to my dad.
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    Re: Eggs in one basket! Monitor Help!

    Personally if you have the money 24" is the more versitile resolution at 1920*1200 but a 22" screen at 1920*1080 does give a nice sharp image. The only issues come with if games support the resolution if they do great no problems if they don't then either you get a stretched image or black borders (black borders are always the better option you can force this in nvidia and ati drivers if the monitor does not support 1:1 pixel mapping).

    This indirectly brings be to the other issue which is playing xbox games on a 1680*1050 or 1920*1200 screen the ratio is wrong and unless the monitor has 1:1 pixel mapping it can cause the games to look a bit pants as the image is stretched all out of shape.

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    Re: Eggs in one basket! Monitor Help!

    Okay just done a few calculations, the Viewsonic monitor is 21.5" diagonal viewable area with a resolution of 1920*1080, this gives dimensions of 18.74"x10.54" which equates to 102 pixels per inch.

    If you wanted to play a game on the monitor which did not support the native resolution then the most common resolution smaller would be 1680*1050 assuming you filled the space around this with black via the graphics drivers (the monitor does not appear to offer 1:1 pixel mapping that I can see) then the 1680*1050 screen would have a diagonal size of 19.34" which should still be very playable.

    Of course if the game supported 16:10 resolutions of any size you could go for 1728*1080 which would have a diagonal length of 19.9" and would only have black borders on the sides.

    All of this musing really is based on games not supporting 16:9 resolutions I am not sure how true of modern games this is? With a lot of games being available on both PC and consoles, the console versions at least would be 16:9 resolution so maybe the PC versions would support this resolution as well.

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    Re: Eggs in one basket! Monitor Help!

    Thanks for the imformative responses so far! and also bringing up the new dilemma of the monitors supporting resolutions for the different media sources :X is goin the other way and looking at LCD TV as aposed to Primary PC monitors a bad route to follow?

    also there is now no immediate need to replace the monitor as my xbox got the red ring of death yesterday!.. in the process of getting it repaired

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    Re: Eggs in one basket! Monitor Help!

    The problem with LCD TVs is that if you look around the 22" you will get 1680*1050 as a resolution anything bigger and it drops to 1366*768 (for 720p support) and then you move into the 1080p TVs which cost a fair bit more than £200 and are significantly larger, TVs also do not tend to have DVI inputs.

    Really the easiest way to solve all your problems could be to get a monitor with 1920*1080 with HDMI for your XBox and then get a TV card/dongle and run the TV from the PC. Just an idea obviously not practical if you already have a digi-box.

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    Re: Eggs in one basket! Monitor Help!

    To get all thoes connectors you need to be looking at a tv not a monitor
    £200 is the base cost of a 22" lcd tv

    LG M228WD 22" £199.99 (not includeing delivery so just over £200 in total)
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/139180

    If you can push your budget a little higher
    LG M2294D 22" £219.99 includes a freeview tuner and DVI-D port
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/149990

    Note these are 1680x1050 resolution which isn't a direct HD resolution
    HD resolutions are
    1,920x1,080 1080p
    1,366x768 768p
    1,280x720 720p
    AFAIK these 1680x1050 will basically run at 768p resolution for HD content (or 720p as 768p is not actually a very common format) however that really shouldn't be an issue with a 22" screen

    The only issue you can get is that are generally designed for a greater viewing distance, however as many of them now use the same LCD panels as monitors do this shouldn't be an issue

    The truth about 1080p
    In the last couple of years, there has been a big influx of HDTVs with 1080p native resolution, which typically cost a good deal more than their lower-resolution counterparts. But as we've been saying all along, once you get to high-def, the difference between resolutions becomes much more difficult to appreciate. We've done side-by-side tests between two 46-inch LCD HDTVs, one with 1366x768 resolution and the other with 1080p resolution, using the same 1080i source material, and it was extremely difficult for us to see any difference. It becomes even more difficult at smaller screen sizes or farther seating distances--say, more than 1.5 times the diagonal measurement of the screen. We've reviewed a 37-inch 1080p LCD, for example, where it was impossible to see the separation between horizontal lines at farther than 45 inches away.
    Source http://www.cnet.com/1990-7874_1-5137915-1.html

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    Re: Eggs in one basket! Monitor Help!

    vmong, the opening poster asks for a 22" monitor ~£200 with a variety of inputs while the Dell has the majority of inputs required it is neither 22" or £200 and since 22" monitors are available with the same resolution the move to the 24" can not be justified for this reason.

    If you can provide a justifiable reason for suggesting the Dell then please do.

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    Re: Eggs in one basket! Monitor Help!

    Quote Originally Posted by Webby View Post
    vmong, the opening poster asks for a 22" monitor ~£200 with a variety of inputs while the Dell has the majority of inputs required it is neither 22" or £200 and since 22" monitors are available with the same resolution the move to the 24" can not be justified for this reason.

    If you can provide a justifiable reason for suggesting the Dell then please do.
    ahh i thought i read somewhere that the dell monitor was £180, didnt actually look at the link, just remembered i copied it somewhere. i just skimmed the first post mentioning HDMI slot, big, and cheap haha! thought i would just fill in the missing info. but guess it didnt meet his criteria lol just tried to help someone out

    i just remembered looking at that one before i made my purchase.

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