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    PCI Express 2.0 question

    Hi

    Maybe a noob question but haven't looked at Graphics cards for a looong time so here goes...

    I am looking to replace my faithful but very aged Radeon 9800Pro AGP card with an HD4830 but as my Asrock Dual SATA2 mobo states PCI Express x16 and x1 would this work and can a PCI Express 2.0 work on such spec mobos?

    I know that I shall have to upgrade mobo/cpu/ram at some stage but can't afford that yet.

    All help appreciated.
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    Re: PCI Express 2.0 question

    PCI-E 2.0 is backwards compatible so you'll have no problem running it on your PCI-E x16 board.

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    Re: PCI Express 2.0 question

    Thanks for that.

    I have since found my CPU is a limiting factor so now have to upgrade

    I am therefore considering upgrading from AMD 3800+ Venice single core to E5200 but what Ram/Mobo is recommended as I intend to overclock on stock voltages? Also, given my choice for HD4830 graphics card (don't know how HDCP will stop me viewing films btw) what psu is recommended too (HIper 525W currently)

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    Re: PCI Express 2.0 question

    Just a thought...are you sure thouse GPU's are compat with the mobo, as your current GPU is AGP, and they are PCI e x16

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    Re: PCI Express 2.0 question

    Quote Originally Posted by geezerone View Post
    I am therefore considering upgrading from AMD 3800+ Venice single core to E5200 but what Ram/Mobo is recommended as I intend to overclock on stock voltages? Also, given my choice for HD4830 graphics card (don't know how HDCP will stop me viewing films btw) what psu is recommended too (Hiper 525W currently).
    Memory and motherboard wise I'd be looking at a branded 2GB or 4GB PC6400 set with (if you're on a budget) a Gigabyte or (if there's more money to spend) a DFI / Biostar board.

    As for your PSU, the Hiper will provide more than enough power so keep hold of it.
    Quote Originally Posted by Will:) View Post
    Just a thought...are you sure thouse GPU's are compat with the mobo, as your current GPU is AGP, and they are PCI e x16
    It has both AGP and PCI-E. - http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.as...=939Dual-SATA2

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    Re: PCI Express 2.0 question

    Quote Originally Posted by Will:) View Post
    Just a thought...are you sure thouse GPU's are compat with the mobo, as your current GPU is AGP, and they are PCI e x16
    I bought this mobo as it supports both AGP and PCI-E x1 & x16 in the hope that I could upgrade Graphics if needs be. The fact that my mobo is now in the home for the elderly in computing terms means this isn't as attractive now. Such is life in the fickle world of computing!
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    Re: PCI Express 2.0 question

    Shhhh.. My Asrock dual sata939 is still doing fine

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    Re: PCI Express 2.0 question

    Here goes ? (possibly)

    Mobo: Gigabyte GA-EP43-DS3L

    Ram: TWIN2X4096-6400C4DHX - 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair TwinX XMS2, DDR2 PC2-6400 (800), 240 Pins, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 4-4-4-12, DHX

    CPU: Intel Pentium Dual-Core, E5200, Socket 775, Wolfdale Core, 2x2.5 GHz, 2MB Cache, Retail

    Gfx: 512MB Power Color HD 4830

    I know, another 'what does this look like' sorry for that.

    As I say, looking to take fsb on mobo to 266Mhz and get a nice 3.34Ghz clock on stock cooler but would consider third party cooler if it is much better. Do the timings on Ram make much difference too and having DDR2 ram as clockable in this setup as DDR3?
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    Re: PCI Express 2.0 question

    Quote Originally Posted by kalniel View Post
    Shhhh.. My Asrock dual sata939 is still doing fine
    I doubt I would have thought of changing had I splashed the cash then on a more expensive dual-core, but hey-ho having a more uptodate machine isn't a bad thing.
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    Re: PCI Express 2.0 question

    Don't bother with the DHX RAM unless it is the same price as the alternative.

    EBuyer have some good deals on memory at the moment one example http://www.ebuyer.com/product/154644 if you spend £50 you will get free delivery as well. Ebuyer are also the cheapest place to get a 4830

    As for an aftermarket cooler I would go for one doesn't need to be expensive a Xigmatek S693 will give you quiet efficient cooling for less than £20 if you have a bit more to spend then a Thermalright Ultima 90 with a quiet 92mm or 120mm fan will cost you £30 (£25 for the cooler and £5 for the fan), it is however a better cooler and comes with a backplate and boltdown kit (worth the extra just not to have push pins in my opinion!).

    The other alternative to the Intel system is AMD, get a Biostar 790GX board ~£70 and the X2 7750 BE for ~£65 at stock settings AMD wins hands down performance wise against an E5200, if you are going to heavily overclock then the E5200 will take the lead because it can clock so much further.

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    Re: PCI Express 2.0 question

    Thanks for the info. Living non-mainland UK puts delivery up to £13 + VAT but you're right, 4830 cheapest.

    Would be looking at Arctic Freezer 64 Pro as cooler as used a couple of these and very satisfied.

    Will look at AMD offering but would like to take E5200 up to 3.32Ghz (12.5 x 266Mhz). Heat is a concern at the moment so E5200 looks attractive on 45nm process.
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