next gen Graphics Cards(NV40 etc)

Just wondered if the next gen cards will work in a std AGP slot as I have heard they may be using PCI express slots which would mean getting a new mobo.

Anyone any idea of the release dates of these cards as well?

I think the generation after NV40 will be PCI-Express as Nvidia would probably bring out a range of cards based on the NV40 GPU first.

ATi wise the same applies most probably

I think Ati are bringing out AGP and PCI-Express cards in their next type

:(

Soon, my system will be worthless! But i wont be switching to BTX format, or getting any new age graphics card soon. I think I will stick with my current system for years to come.

Me too.

Um, I think they'll be running along side each other guys.

Can't remember which, but one company is making a PCIExpress to AGP bridge chip to overcome the problem.

Nvidias making AGP chips with a PCIE bridge, and ATi is making PCIE chips with an AGP bus ;)

Seen pictures of cards from both with both :)

Have you got a link to the pics? wouldnt mind seeing the ati one.
Im a bit confused about the idea of bridges. I assume they will either make two versions of the card, for each, one with a bridge chip and one without, or a single version which is compatable with both (wouldnt the cards then need two connectors?). I might have to think about getting a new mobo soon :o

Two card versions Silent. PCIExpress cards probably won't need extra power connectors as they can get it from the PCI connector.

NV40 in PCIExpress apparently still needs a molex connector

In that case it'll probably be one warm card!

if the AGP bus can't provide enough power then surely the PCI Bus can't.

I thought the new generation cards had 2 molex connectors on them?

The R420 has one molex connector under AGP (could be no molex under PCIExpress), the NV40 in AGP has 2 molex connectors and 1 under PCIExpress if I remember correctly.

Let's not forget the images we seen are of sample boards, they've probably been able to sort things out a bit better.

PCIExpress can provide more power than AGP, hence the need for less "help."