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[The Asgard]

I use the 2408WFP at work too and it seems the HP monitor is much higher regarded as it uses an H-IPS panel.

Anyway using Quidco and a discount code you can get it for around £360 direct from HP.

For more details check this thread out:

http://forums.hexus.net/graphics-car...00-budget.html

Cheers for the headsup.

[sammorris]

Seriously, who doesn't have a dual link graphics card these days? Even the 7300LE and X1300 pro had dual link connectors.

[richiejenkins]

No input lag problems here. It was fixed in the A01 revision.

The input lag on the 2408WFP was improved in the A01 revision, however it still exists quite badly.

[sammorris]

to what extent? All LCD monitors and TVs lag compared to CRTs. I've never found it an issue.

[Singh400]

The input lag on the 2408WFP was improved in the A01 revision, however it still exists quite badly.

How badly are we talking? I know the A00 was ridiculously bad, but I haven't seen any side-by-side reviews of the A01 & A00. Surely, it [A01] can't be that bad otherwise I would have run into the same ****storm that I did with A00.

[richiejenkins]

to what extent? All LCD monitors and TVs lag compared to CRTs. I've never found it an issue.

According to a member on the dell community forums, it's consistently 68ms behind a CRT monitor running off the same graphics card.

[richiejenkins]

How badly are we talking? I know the A00 was ridiculously bad, but I haven't seen any side-by-side reviews of the A01 & A00. Surely, it [A01] can't be that bad otherwise I would have run into the same ****storm that I did with A00.

I've owned both revisions due to getting the A00 replaced early this year and I later sold A01 revision as the input lag was still terrible.

[nightkhaos]

I've owned both revisions due to getting the A00 replaced early this year and I later sold A01 revision as the input lag was still terrible.

I don't agree. In fact I have absolutely no idea what people when when they say it has terrible input lag, it responds just fine for me, and has for my friend who got an A01.

[Singh400]

I don't agree. In fact I have absolutely no idea what people when when they say it has terrible input lag, it responds just fine for me, and has for my friend who got an A01.

I think it depends on what you do and how sensitive you are to it. For example, I'm sure I would notice it when playing a fast paced FPS game (eg ET:QW), but I wouldn't notice it as much with normal gaming & usage.

[nightkhaos]

I think it depends on what you do and how sensitive you are to it. For example, I'm sure I would notice it when playing a fast paced FPS game (eg ET:QW), but I wouldn't notice it as much with normal gaming & usage.

You're probably right, but even then, we're talking what, 12 ms? The perception framerate (how long something has to occur before you eye can perceive it) is on average 31Hz. That is approximately 32 ms. Therefore, anything that takes less than 32ms to occur cannot register within our visual perception. It is a physical impossibility.

Add to this the concious, subconscious barrier, which occurs at approximately 26Hz, and I seriously doubt anyone actually has experienced input-lag.

Unless I am mistaken, and the "terrible" input lag is in the order of 40ms.

[sammorris]

the lag of most displays is 30-40ms. The lag of the dells was meant to be over 100, but I've never seen many cases of it - oh, and those measurements aren't quite right - the human eye can only detect change in that period, but not lag - the eye does not lag by 40ms, it simply doesn't refresh often enough.

[nightkhaos]

the lag of most displays is 30-40ms. The lag of the dells was meant to be over 100, but I've never seen many cases of it - oh, and those measurements aren't quite right - the human eye can only detect change in that period, but not lag - the eye does not lag by 40ms, it simply doesn't refresh often enough.

Okay so yes... 30-40 ms would be detectable, at a sub concious level anyway.

And even that definition is not quite right... it doesn't "refresh"... it simply can't detect, zip, no see, anything that occurs at less than 32 ms. It is equivelent to a refresh rate of 31Hz. The eye doesn't sample like a camera does.

So if anything changes in that period, i.e. if something changes in less than 32 ms, the eye will detect that change. What you need to look at to detect lag is the sub-concious, concious barrier, which I said was about 24Hz, i.e. if anything is visiable for over 41 ms then the mind is aware of it.

So yes, if the Dell had input lag of over 100 ms when it was first released, then I would class that as "terriable input lag", but right now I think it is sitting at around 50 ms, which is just on the threshold, i.e. the mind can easily compensate. Take a movie for example, it refreshes at 21 Hz (47 ms) on average, and very few people can detect it. The motion still appears fluid. In fact, I've noticed people still think a picture looks fluid at 15 Hz (67 ms), depending the content.

[sammorris]

Whatever you say about the eye, fluidity and lag are not the same. The image would still appear fluid, but it would lag behind input and audio, which is thankfully less noticeable unless focusing on an image intently, worse if your input is directly based on what you see, such as when playing Rock Band.

[toolsong]

This new review of the HP LP2475w makes it worth considering

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/mon...n-tft-review/1

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

This new review of the HP LP2475w makes it worth considering

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/mon...n-tft-review/1

Especially when you can get it for around £360!!

It seems the newer LP2475W monitors have an H-IPS and the earlier ones had an S-IPS panel.