Ati 4850

[watforddude]

No, it has x16 remember we found that out through GPU-Z and found the correct motherboard

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

No, it has x16 remember we found that out through GPU-Z and found the correct motherboard

Oops!! I forgot about that!!

It could be a CPU issue as the Celeron has a lack of L2 cache which does not help its performance.

TBH,I would deactivate any AV and anti-spyware software when playing games to see if this helps things. Also defrag your hard disk too.

[watforddude]

TBH,I would deactivate any AV and anti-spyware software when playing games to see if this helps things. Also defrag your hard disk too.

can this actually make a difference?

[jim]

can this actually make a difference?

Massive. You should probably disconnect from the net though, just for safety's sake.

[watforddude]

Do i want to shut down from windows defender as well, becuase if i dont then i will just keep the tinternet on

[Phage]

Leave Defender. Ensure the others are not running in the background.

[watforddude]

How come having AV'es running can have such a big effect on your FPS?

[Phage]

I'm no programmer, but it's down to the constant scanning and monitoring of what your system is up to. It's quite comprehensive and creates quite a burden.

[jim]

How come having AV'es running can have such a big effect on your FPS?

Live scanning - constantly checking files to see if they're okay or not, trying to spot threats before they occur.

For instance, if I try to patch ARMA II with Kaspersky running, it kills my system and I have to reboot.

[watforddude]

Do you think having AVG and IobitSecurity running at the same time and one other AV program

so 3x AV programs running all at once could have a big hit?

[jim]

Do you think having AVG and IobitSecurity running at the same time and one other AV program

so 3x AV programs running all at once could have a big hit?

Using one has a measurable hit, using more than one is a big no-no. They start cross-checking each other, scanning each others' data and it all goes a bit berserk.

AVG free is a good antivirus solution, then you need a firewall (maybe ZoneAlarm) and antispyware. But definitely no more than one of each. Don't forget to disable windows firewall if you use a third-party solution.

[watforddude]

Bloody hell i never knew that they could kill my fps by as much as they do (if thats the problem) when i get home i will give it a wizz and see what happens.. anything else i should turn off?

[watforddude]

I belieave its been fixed with answers from you guy's

i turned the AV's off and i installed the 4800 hotfix and these are my marks now

Grid (1280x800) EVERYTHING MAX OUT including AA
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
3048, 83769, 29, 55, 36.386

Crysis (1280x800) ALL ON HIGH SETTING no AA

Before changes..
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
2523, 99669, 3, 42, 25.314

After Changes..
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
9680, 374105, 0, 71, 25.875

The 0 fps was becuase of saving and demo lag etc.. notice the max went to 71 and before it was 42.

Call of Duty 4 (1280x800) Everything MAX no AA
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
31696, 332364, 43, 293, 95.365

That is so so so much better than before...

Now the big test ^^

Call of duty 2 (1280x800) 4xAA everything on max.
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
9796, 46587, 172, 251, 210.273

[watforddude]

Oh and i found Stalker so i done it on that as well.

Stalker (1280x800) Every settting on MAX including AA and AF
Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
11579, 101685, 39, 375, 113.871

the 39 was from where it dipped from time to time, dont know why it does it.


Definetly something has worked becuase on 3DMarks03 before i got 22k now i am getting 36k!!!

[Pob255]

What did you do in the end?

I did mean to post get a copy of Hijackthis and run it after a reboot to get a base boot up report.
Hijackthis is a very handy program for removeing stuff from running at boot.

[Phage]

Excellent. Glad to hear it worked out.