More GT300 details emerge

Including native support for C++ of all things:

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news...6gb-gddr5.aspx

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• 3.0 billion transistors
• 40nm TSMC
• 384-bit memory interface
• 512 shader cores [renamed into CUDA Cores]
• 32 CUDA cores per Shader Cluster
• 1MB L1 cache memory [divided into 16KB Cache - Shared Memory]
• 768KB L2 unified cache memory
• Up to 6GB GDDR5 memory
• Half Speed IEEE 754 Double Precision

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Also, if this wasn't enough, apparently it will be demonstrated tonight to the world:

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/15741/1/

I notice they didn't mention the licensing terms state you have to hand over your life savings for the privalege of owning one.

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Originally Posted by cptwhite_uk

I notice they didn't mention the licensing terms state you have to hand over your life savings for the privalege of owning one.

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You won't have to, unless they have a critical advantage over ATI's 58xx series. Whilst it's certain that Quadro and Tesla will remain expensive, NVidia needs to compete with ATI in the mainstream market.

The advantages Nvidia have at the moment are PhysX and 3D device support, plus possibly better drivers.

Nvidia will still be forced to compete with the lower end 5xxx series, and if they release a competitive high end GT300 parts in the near future, that'll upset the 58xx pricing.

PK

I've read that the GT300 will use ECC RAM. (Or maybe this is just for the Tesla project?) If so, I'm worried. Large die sizes and ECC GDD5 sounds like it could be scary expensive.

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Originally Posted by Ben_LRS

I've read that the GT300 will use ECC RAM. (Or maybe this is just for the Tesla project?) If so, I'm worried. Large die sizes and ECC GDD5 sounds like it could be scary expensive.

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Originally Posted by Ben_LRS

I've read that the GT300 will use ECC RAM. (Or maybe this is just for the Tesla project?) If so, I'm worried. Large die sizes and ECC GDD5 sounds like it could be scary expensive.

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At this stage I'd be more worried that ATI have no competition. Their parts in the near future are going to be DX10.1 only and a release date for GT300 wasn't even mentioned.

Nvidia will probably push the 3D/PhysX/DX10.1 'is all you need' argument, but ATI have still got a better solution, architecturally.

PK

i have seen somhere that the transistors count has gone up form 3 billion to 3.1 billion

Up to 6GB RAM! :O_o1:

/faints

Fudzilla reckon this will be out for xmas, but IMO, probably only in tiny quantities.

Nvidia have nothing new for the mid-range market, where the HD 5850 might clean up.

At £200 the 5850 is not really mid range, the price is going to have to come down at least £50 or more.

6Gb of RAM is just...nuts!

Can't see that model selling for £300 tho. :D

I think the pertinent info is that it "supports upto 6GB RAM". That doesn't mean that mainstream gfx cards will come with 6GB. Don't forget that this is being promoted until the GPGPU mantle (or whatever they're rebranding it as), where more memory capacity would be mandated.

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Originally Posted by martinp

6Gb of RAM is just...nuts!

Can't see that model selling for £300 tho. :D

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6GB RAM isn't intended for gaming. The Geforce and Quadro lines basically share the same chip, usually with a few additional connections, extra memory and optimised drivers in the case of the Quadro.

If you're buying a graphics card to last longer than a couple of years I can see 2GB being useful though - it's already possible to get games which high resolution texture packs that'll use up to 1GB..

PK

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Originally Posted by Syllopsium

6GB RAM isn't intended for gaming. The Geforce and Quadro lines basically share the same chip, usually with a few additional connections, extra memory and optimised drivers in the case of the Quadro.

If you're buying a graphics card to last longer than a couple of years I can see 2GB being useful though - it's already possible to get games which high resolution texture packs that'll use up to 1GB..

PK

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without being coarse or rude... to buy a graphicas card expecting it to last over 2 years of new game launches is unlikely.

It's a NICE thought... but most people already know that it's best to keep buying midrangers and changing them as time moves on.

2gb right now is unlikely to be of any use at all... so a 1gb card now.. and an upgrade in a years time.. that's prolly more likely :)

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Originally Posted by Ben_LRS

I've read that the GT300 will use ECC RAM. (Or maybe this is just for the Tesla project?) If so, I'm worried. Large die sizes and ECC GDD5 sounds like it could be scary expensive.

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Die size is reported to be about the same at the original GT200, and I also read that ECC is part of the GDDR5 spec. ATI can detect errors but not correct them. Nvidia went one stop further to help their CUDA cause, not that many of us will care about that.

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Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix

Die size is reported to be about the same at the original GT200, and I also read that ECC is part of the GDDR5 spec. ATI can detect errors but not correct them. Nvidia went one stop further to help their CUDA cause, not that many of us will care about that.

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nVidia are really ramping up CUDA stuff though - flash acceleration and now they're talking about virus scanning too. Interesting stuff above the normal folding/slightly-dodgy-video-conversion apps we normally see.