More grim reading about Fermi

[GheeTsar]

Yes, it's another Charlie D article which makes a pinch of salt required when reading, but if his theories are correct it really does look like ATI are going to have little to worry about for a while:

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2010/02/...-and-unfixable

Meanwhile, ATI are expected to release a faster Evergreen card titled "Trillian" that is effectively a tuned 5870:

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/17720/1/


I've been waiting for ages for the price of 5870's to drop and it looks like my wait could be extended yet again.

[shaithis]

I can now see why nVidias undercover PR fool was so desperate to try and put people off of buying ATI cards while waiting for Fermi......

I can see the 5xxx series being even more successful then the 4xxx series, good times ahead or AMD it seems.

[Infinite]

A "limited edition" card with less than 9000 produced that will most likely break during use and will cost more than a 5970, yet, perform worse.......

[jim]

A "limited edition" card with less than 9000 produced that will most likely break during use and will cost more than a 5970, yet, perform worse.......

Yeah, but it does support Physx...

[DanceswithUnix]

A "limited edition" card with less than 9000 produced that will most likely break during use and will cost more than a 5970, yet, perform worse.......

Break during use? Not sure where you got that from. It does sound like a poorly executed design, but I would expect any chips that get onto board to give a long (if toasty) service.

The Nvidia call for the fab to fix the VIA problems mentioned in the Anand article does make it sound like Nvidia have no handle on this problem at all though which does not bode well. Time to try out the ATI Linux drivers, looks like my next card is going to be another ATI.

[MadduckUK]

part of me is wanting Rollo to be unbanned soon, purely to rub his nose in his own **** like a naughty puppy you understand


mm.. no the article didn't mention "break during use" tbh

[badass]

Yeah, but it does support Physx...

You just broke the needle on my sarcasm-ometer

[Domestic_Ginger]

Not all doom and gloom at fudzilla they are discussing the coolers; although they do seem pro green:-

"Higher TDP, but similar noise

We got some word that Nvidia's upcoming Fermi-based Geforce GTX 480 single GPU card should be as hot as the GTX 285. These are still preliminary results, as Nvidia still has to send out the final cards with the final coolers, but this looks like slightly better result that the GTX 480 that we saw at CES 2010.

The TDP of the GTX 480 will end up higher than on GTX 285, but with the help of a good cooler the thermals should be very close.

The noise lever should also be very comparable and the card should not end up much noisier than GTX 285. We heard numerous times that GTX 480 will end up with different cooler than the one we saw at CES 2010 and that was showed to Nvidia's loyal press at Editor Days.

All in all, you won't burn your fingers on the GTX 480, but it won't be cold either."

BTW how come Rollo has been banned? Apart from a bit of contrivursy he was not openly rude.

[GheeTsar]

part of me is wanting Rollo to be unbanned soon, purely to rub his nose in his own **** like a naughty puppy you understand

Wandering off topic - what was the final straw that got everyone's favourite fanboy banned in the end? I *almost* miss his propaganda.

[MadduckUK]

Apart from a bit of contrivursy he was not openly rude.

I think he saved his rudeness for PM's. although i think some things near the end got deleted and "lets never speak of again"'d


Fudo's article is fluff, nvidia will have told him to write a good news piece and this is as good as he feels he can get away with. "it will have a good cooler"

[DanceswithUnix]

mm.. no the article didn't mention "break during use" tbh

Thinking back to the Anand article, that did mention for the via doubling the fact that the vias could fail after initial testing.

So it could fail during use. Sorry, my bad

[DanceswithUnix]

You just broke the needle on my sarcasm-ometer

Not sure I should have thanked him for that, was very hard not to laugh out loud in the middle of the office

[shaithis]

Fudo's article is fluff, nvidia will have told him to write a good news piece and this is as good as he feels he can get away with. "it will have a good cooler"

And within a week there will still be considerably better after-market coolers available

[MadduckUK]

Wandering off topic - what was the final straw that got everyone's favourite fanboy banned in the end? I *almost* miss his propaganda.

not sure, didnt see it happen i was hung over and asleep till lunch on the day as far as I remember and by the time id had a look it was all cleared up. probably threw a wobbly at a mod or something

And within a week there will still be considerably better after-market coolers available

this is true, aftermarket > stock just about every time, so nvidia could always get Arctic cooling or someone to make one for them, its going to be an expensive card anyway so another £5 cost isnt going to be a disaster, but another 5800 style hairdryer would be

[Pob255]

Actually stock coolers is one area nvidia has tended to be very good on and ati weak on.

[LaxBlade]

By the time Fermi comes out... ATI/AMD will be out with their 2nd gen DX.11 GPU's and twice as powerful than last years models... I guess... Just "my opinion"....

Tho, I do like Nvidia driver support better than ATI/AMD.... Present Card GTS-250 but wanna BUY an HD 5770 with Free Dirt 2 game. £120.

Yes, if I had the capital I would buy the HD 5870 but I do NOT...at present, as Im in the middle of a project...

Thanks for the thread man...