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    New Monitor

    Im currently running a 19" widescreen 1440x900 and im toying with the idea of getting a bigger monitor in the 20"-22" range mayby. Used for generally internet/word stuff and gaming from call of duty to total war. Looking at a budget of hopefully around £125 and I know this wont get me somthing amazing but the TN panels should do the job I hope.

    Looking at some other threads one that was mentioned was this at Ebuyer
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/143280
    the Samsung T220 22" monitor at £135.

    I have great problems comparing contrast ratios as some list 1000:1 and others say 20,000:1 (dynamic) could anyone explain the difference in laymans terms? Im still trying to understand monitors

    Thanks for any advice.

    EDIT: forgot to say its being powered by a GTX 260 so im not sure ito go for a full HD or the 1600x1050 ones

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    Re: New Monitor

    Having a 16:10 ratio screen such as a 1680X1050 is better for word processing whereas a 16:9 screen is better for watching videos.

    TBH,1680X1050 means that the graphics card has less pixels to generate and hence this will mean higher framerates than a 1920X1080 or 1920X1200 monitor. Also scaling to a lower resolution does not always look good with all LCD monitors.

    The Samsung T220 looks OK for the money.

    If you really want a great 22" monitor look at this one:

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158551

    However it is much more expensive and unless you need to do colour critical work and need wide viewing angles and deep blacks the TN panel should do the job.

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    Re: New Monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheapy View Post
    I have great problems comparing contrast ratios as some list 1000:1 and others say 20,000:1 (dynamic) could anyone explain the difference in laymans terms? Im still trying to understand monitors
    The contrast ratio quoted in monitor specs is pretty meaningless unfortunately. Manufacturers get the numbers by measuring the brightness of a white screen at maximum brightness and a black screen at minimum brightness. You'd need a monitor with dynamic contrast (see below) to achieve this in the real world and you'd likely find the screen to be so bright you wouldn't be able to look at it for very long. The T220's maximum brightness for instance is rated at 300cd/m2, about 180cd/m2 more than most people would want, so you'd probably want to turn it down a fair bit.

    Dynamic contrast is when the monitor detects a mostly dark scene and automatically turns down the backlight in order to produce darker blacks. This might sound good but most people seem to find it annoying and turn it off.

    I can personally vouch for the Dell 2209WA CAT-THE-FIFTH mentions. It's a very good all-rounder but if you can't stretch to it the T220 is decent enough.

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    Re: New Monitor

    The dell does seem a great monitor but I just carnt stretch to it.
    Looking around today and another recomended monitor to come up was the Viewsonic VX2260WM. Its a higher resolution at 1920x1080 than the T220.
    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/151336
    Looking at benchmarks the GTX 260 should be able to handle the resolution but im going to have to turn down settings. Im leaning more towards the Viewsonic over the T220 at the moment.

    Thanks for the information both Cat and DefineByte, helping to make monitors that much easier to understand.

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    Re: New Monitor

    Yeah... Dell is a little expensive, why? Because that specific model is an IPS panel.

    If you want a good monitor that's affordable and built well, either yeah, go for the Viewsonic you found or pick another 16:9 Full HD monitor. The future is Full HD 16:9 displays. Unfortunately 16:10 display will eventually be cleared out to pave in the red carpet for the 16:9 realm

    The BenQ G2220HD might fit your needs well too! It is also Full HD, 16:9, 40,000:1 DCR, DVI connectivity, and comes in a very nice glossy fiinish.

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/158568

    You can find it on Oyyyy for cheaper, but its currently sold out. Depends if you want to wait?
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    Re: New Monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by muppet_hat View Post
    The future is Full HD 16:9 displays. Unfortunately 16:10 display will eventually be cleared out to pave in the red carpet for the 16:9 realm
    Do you have a source for that?

    Personally, I cannot see why they would do that. 16:10 makes more sense for gaming and productivity apps. 16:9 only makes sense for video....and lets face it, only a small minority of people will use their 22" PC monitor for watching films.....and even then, the 16:10 will play them fine with tony black bars at the top and bottom....
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    Re: New Monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    Do you have a source for that?

    Personally, I cannot see why they would do that. 16:10 makes more sense for gaming and productivity apps. 16:9 only makes sense for video....and lets face it, only a small minority of people will use their 22" PC monitor for watching films.....and even then, the 16:10 will play them fine with tony black bars at the top and bottom....
    Why build 2 things, when one will do.

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    Re: New Monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by shaithis View Post
    Do you have a source for that?

    Personally, I cannot see why they would do that. 16:10 makes more sense for gaming and productivity apps. 16:9 only makes sense for video....and lets face it, only a small minority of people will use their 22" PC monitor for watching films.....and even then, the 16:10 will play them fine with tony black bars at the top and bottom....
    I see it happening fairly soon to be honest - 1920x1200 monitors are being buried under the swathes of 1920x1080 pretenders.

    Quite why all this 1080p nonsense has to wreck PC monitors I don't know, but all people are going to want is "1080p", so I guess the extra 120p is a waste of money

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    Re: New Monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by abaxas View Post
    Why build 2 things, when one will do.
    16:9 are pointless for any sort of non gaming and non video use. This is why all professional monitors will continue to be 16:10 luckily. I actually like the fact I need to scroll less on webpages and documents using a 16:10 screen as you have more vertical pixels for a given screen size.

    Also 16:10 is closer to the Golden Ratio!!

    The only reason for 16:9 ration LCD monitors swamping the market is primarily due to cost as LCD TVs use the same aspect ratio LCDs and hence the same factories(?) can be used to make the LCDs.

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    Re: New Monitor

    I live close to Scan so as far as return and warranty goes its easier for me to deal with them but thanks for pointing out the BenQ.

    I agree with what Cat says about 16:10 being better for non gaming and video use. Only reason im upgrading is because of gaming, if I didnt game I would be happy with what I have now.

    Yet another thing the golden ratio influences

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    Re: New Monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by Cheapy View Post
    I live close to Scan so as far as return and warranty goes its easier for me to deal with them but thanks for pointing out the BenQ.

    I agree with what Cat says about 16:10 being better for non gaming and video use. Only reason im upgrading is because of gaming, if I didnt game I would be happy with what I have now.

    Yet another thing the golden ratio influences
    You can have a dual monitor setup now!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    16:9 are pointless for any sort of non gaming and non video use. This is why all professional monitors will continue to be 16:10 luckily. I actually like the fact I need to scroll less on webpages and documents using a 16:10 screen as you have more vertical pixels for a given screen size.

    Also 16:10 is closer to the Golden Ratio!!

    The only reason for 16:9 ration LCD monitors swamping the market is primarily due to cost as LCD TVs use the same aspect ratio LCDs and hence the same factories(?) can be used to make the LCDs.
    Hahhahah, that is true! 16:9's are cheaper to make and also it is a way for manufacturers to push for a standardized monitor ratio, hence why I said it is the direction of the 'future', as in more and more monitors will be made in 16:9. And due to this phenomenon you can assume that more and more products will be made to fit the 16:9 ratio.
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