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    Hi,

    I was looking recently at some monitors, and found that a 27 or 30" would be quite appealing.
    And now I want one, I am just here for suggestions, as I was looking at the Dell 2709W and the 3007/8WFP, just wanted to know your thoughts on these, and if I should steer clear of them, or if they are good or not,

    I already know that the Dell Monitors are quite good, as I have a 2407WFP, and was just looking to upgrade, and was going to give that to my father,

    Thanks for any help you give

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    Re: Looking for a 24-30" Monitor

    I would get an HP LP2475W screen which has an H-IPS panel and is the best 24" screen under £500 IMHO.

    Here is a review and it is considered better than the 2408WFP:

    http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hp_lp2475w.htm

    With the discount code HPSPLDIS (if it still works) and cashback from Quidco you get the screen for under £370:

    http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en...0Monitor&cc=uk

    http://www2.quidco.com/hewlett-packard/

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    Re: Looking for a 24-30" Monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    I would get an HP LP2475W screen which has an H-IPS panel and is the best 24" screen under £500 IMHO.

    Here is a review and it is considered better than the 2408WFP:

    http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hp_lp2475w.htm

    With the discount code HPSPLDIS (if it still works) and cashback from Quidco you get the screen for under £370:

    http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/uk/en...0Monitor&cc=uk

    http://www2.quidco.com/hewlett-packard/
    Maybe cause the 2408WFP is 1.5 years old (read 08 in the name) and has been superceded by the U2410 which is supposed to be awesome.

    I'd advise against a 27" as they are usually the same resolution as 24", hence lower dot pitch.
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    Re: Looking for a 24-30" Monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by ta2 View Post
    Maybe cause the 2408WFP is 1.5 years old (read 08 in the name) and has been superceded by the U2410 which is supposed to be awesome.

    I'd advise against a 27" as they are usually the same resolution as 24", hence lower dot pitch.
    The LP2475W has better image quality than even a U2410:

    http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2410.htm

    For under £370 it is a far better choice than the U2410 for both image quality and value for money.

    Edit!!

    The Quidco cashback percentage has increased so after taking out the £5 yearly fee ( which is deducted only from earnings you make) the price is actually under £360 for the LP2475W!!
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    Re: Looking for a 24-30" Monitor

    Hi,

    I was looking more towards the 30" Dell monitor (3007WFP or 3008WFP) because of the higher resolution of 2500x1600, there are a couple on fleabay at the moment, but I am not sure about buying another monitor from ebay, as buying the 2407WFP it took a while for the payment to go through.

    Thanks for the help, but I will probably just stick to the Dells.

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    Re: Looking for a 24-30" Monitor

    Dell does not necessarily make the best monitors though. Plenty of other companies make better monitors especially for photographic use such as NEC and Eizo. Dell also have ripped off customers with the whole panel lottery thing as have Samsung so I tend to a bit weary of them at times. HP did the same with the first version of the LP2475W having an S-IPS panel and the monitors being sold this year having an improved H-IPS panel but both panel types are quite decent and it is rare for HP to do such a thing AFAIK. However Dell and Samsung have the annoying habit of changing the panel type entirely within the same model which is much worse.

    Even the 2407WFP has both MVA and PVA versions:

    http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles...el_lottery.htm

    Sometimes Dell has had both IPS and PVA panels for the same monitor model too and the 2408WFP had issues with ghosting in the initial run of the monitor too.
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    Re: Looking for a 24-30" Monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    The LP2475W has better image quality than even a U2410:

    http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2410.htm

    For under £370 it is a far better choice than the U2410 for both image quality and value for money.

    Edit!!

    The Quidco cashback percentage has increased so after taking out the £5 yearly fee ( which is deducted only from earnings you make) the price is actually under £360 for the LP2475W!!
    Maybe it does, TFT Central is a good site, however it is unfair to make comparisons between two products which were release so long apart.
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    Re: Looking for a 24-30" Monitor

    There is only around a 6 month difference between the dates of the reviews of the 2408WFP and LP2475W. Anyway the HP LP2475W is still cheaper than both the Dell 2408WFP and U2410 and offers better image quality which is the most important criterion for me. The Dell U2410 does have a better array of connectors but the HP LP2475W has DVI,HDMI and Displayport inputs which should be enough in most cases IMHO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    There is only around a 6 month difference between the dates of the reviews of the 2408WFP and LP2475W. Anyway the HP LP2475W is still cheaper than both the Dell 2408WFP and U2410 and offers better image quality which is the most important criterion for me. The Dell U2410 does have a better array of connectors but the HP LP2475W has DVI,HDMI and Displayport inputs which should be enough in most cases IMHO.
    Oh, I thought the LP2475W was much newer, my bad. Get that one then, the price seems reason enough!
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    Re: Looking for a 24-30" Monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    HP did the same with the first version of the LP2475W having an S-IPS panel and the monitors being sold this year having an improved H-IPS panel but both panel types are quite decent and it is rare for HP to do such a thing AFAIK
    It's my understanding that the LP2475W has always used the same H-IPS panel since its original release, but there was some confusion due to misinformation put out by a hardware review site (can't remember which one now).

    In any case, rather than rely solely on "professional" reviews, I'd also check out the relevant threads on various hardware forums before splashing out on either the Dell U2410 or the HP LP2475W - they each have their fair share of issues, most of which seem to centre round poor quality control of the LG panel they both use (slightly different revisions).

    I had three LP2475Ws in a row, ordered at different times from different suppliers, and they all had to go back because of the green>pink left>right gradient which seems endemic to this panel, although it seems to vary from severe to barely noticeable (depending on a combination of pot luck and the user's sensitivity to the effect).
    Quote Originally Posted by 0083RN0083R View Post
    I was looking recently at some monitors, and found that a 27 or 30" would be quite appealing.
    If you can wait a short while, you might want to take a look at the new NEC range of IPS monitors (including a 27" 2560x1440 and 30" 2560x1600 models). I'd imagine that only those with deep pockets need bother applying though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCrash View Post
    It's my understanding that the LP2475W has always used the same H-IPS panel since its original release, but there was some confusion due to misinformation put out by a hardware review site (can't remember which one now).

    In any case, rather than rely solely on "professional" reviews, I'd also check out the relevant threads on various hardware forums before splashing out on either the Dell U2410 or the HP LP2475W - they each have their fair share of issues, most of which seem to centre round poor quality control of the LG panel they both use (slightly different revisions).

    I had three LP2475Ws in a row, ordered at different times from different suppliers, and they all had to go back because of the green>pink left>right gradient which seems endemic to this panel, although it seems to vary from severe to barely noticeable (depending on a combination of pot luck and the user's sensitivity to the effect).

    If you can wait a short while, you might want to take a look at the new NEC range of IPS monitors (including a 27" 2560x1440 and 30" 2560x1600 models). I'd imagine that only those with deep pockets need bother applying though.
    Dell had enough issues with the 2408WFP since the early ones had issues with ghosting. Luckily the one I used at work was not for any video work. However for people who were gaming with this monitor it sucked big time. Even the 3008WFP had problems and production had to be pulled for the first revision of the monitor IIRC.

    Samsung and Dell also have the annoying "panel lottery" in many of their monitors too using different panel types and panels manufacturers for the same monitor and in the case of Samsung even hiding the fact. The problem is that LG,Samsung and AUO make up a significant percentage of the panel market and LG supplies around 50% of the market AFAIK.

    OTH,at least what I have gathered about the LP2475W there are people on photo forums who run the monitor calibrated for image editing with no problems and I also know someone who is artist who uses ones for their work.

    TBH,unless you are spending over £1000 on a pro level LCD monitor you are really not guaranteed any consistency in most monitors nowadays. It seems that every sub £1000 LCD monitor with a PVA or IPS panel has issues of some sort if you look on certain forums.
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    Re: Looking for a 24-30" Monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    TBH,unless you are spending over £1000 on a pro level LCD monitor you are really not guaranteed any consistency in most monitors nowadays. It seems that every sub £1000 LCD monitor with a PVA or IPS panel has issues of some sort if you look on certain forums.
    Tell me about it.

    I ended up buying an el cheapo 24" TN monitor, purely for the increase in desktop space over my previous 19" panel. I know many people have spent a lot more and are happy with their purchase, but IMHO there are simply too many design and manufacturing issues in the "premium" monitor space to justify the extra cost, at least for the time being (not helped by rip-off pricing in the UK compared with some other major markets).

    My current monitor isn't perfect by a long shot, but it's a damn sight easier to overlook flaws in a £150 panel than a £400-£500 model, let alone a £1000+ 30" job...

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    HP LP2475W is the business. was making same decision as the OP, and very pleased with result. Friend owns 3 for his video editing.
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    Re: Looking for a 24-30" Monitor

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    The LP2475W has better image quality than even a U2410:

    http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2410.htm

    For under £370 it is a far better choice than the U2410 for both image quality and value for money.

    Edit!!

    The Quidco cashback percentage has increased so after taking out the £5 yearly fee ( which is deducted only from earnings you make) the price is actually under £360 for the LP2475W!!
    http://www.topcashback.co.uk/retaile...tt_Packard.htm

    Same amount, no £5 fee

    £355

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    Re: Looking for a 24-30" Monitor

    I have a Dell 3007WFP-HC, which is a very nice gaming monitor. Love it and recommend it. (although I believe HP has a version with the same panel,updated, that offers 105% color (vs 92%) and more inputs.

    You might consider the new 24" 3d Vision compatible monitors that will be launching very soon as well since 24" is in your range. Will likely be much cheaper, offer 120Hz refresh (no more vsynch), and 3d Vision is the one thing I arguably like better than the 3007.

    I could make a case for either of these, love the 3007, love the 3d Vision and high refresh. I'd pick either as far superior to any 27-28".

    Note: These recommendations for gaming and general apps only. I don't do professional image editing of any sort, so I haveno clue what is considered best for that.

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