CES report, NVIDIA oriented

[Rollo]

NVIDIA was kind enough to invite me to join them at CES.

They gave me a private demo of 3d Vision Surround, showed me a lot of other very exciting things. It's about to be a very good time to be a gamer, we're all going to benefit.

NVIDIA: Faster DX11, CUDA, 3d Vision, 3d Vision Surround, "Eye Finity", PhysX = the most powerful, flexible video cards the world has ever seen. The next G80.

ATi: Slower DX11, EyeFinity= cheap. If you just want a faster graphics card, these are about to become much less expensive because they can't compete on features.

I'm currently playing Dark Void and Batman- both optomized for PhysX and 3d.

So we'll all win. If you don't want the features, ATi is about to be forced to lower prices. If you want them, NVIDIA will give you the value added gaming.

Note: I played with 3d Vision Surround several times and watched it a lot- and I can honestly say I haven't been this excited about anything in a long time. My birthday is coming up in June, 3d Vision Surround is on my short list. I've loved 3d Vision since I got it 13 months ago, this took it to the next level.

Second note: I was wrong about EyeFinity. I have posted I thought the bezels would be a deal breaker, it turns out it's one of those things you have to see to understand. I think it's like the psychological principle of closure. (your mind fills in what it expects to see) You really don't notice the bezels. So, 5870 owners worried about te bezels can stop IMO. Those considering 3 monitor configs will soon have two options, again, win/win.

[Infinite]

When did they say the release date is?

[Hicks12]

So rollo, your saying the Ati 5000 series beats fermi in terms of gaming performance? But yet offers more 'extras' , or did i read this wrong?
That to me is a good idea because, i dont want to be able to do work on my gpu (whole point of a work station IMO) and my cpu is powerful enough for along time tbh so i can just concentrate keeping the gpu playing games well.

Now to wait for the 5850/70 to drop to £100 and ill blag 2 .

[Pob255]

Second note: I was wrong about EyeFinity.

Strange the way you thought it wasn't anything special untill nvidia add it to their cards.
Ok that might just because you'd not seen it in person before, I know I really like 3d for games, ever since I demo'd a system back in 1999 which ran on a high refresh rate CRT and syncronsied alternating polerising glasses.

The issue to me for both eyeinfinaty and 3d vision is the cost, both displayport monitors and 3d monitors are fairly uncommon and cost a good chunk more than a normal monitor.
surround 3d, if you mean combineing the two, that means 3 even more expensive monitors, forget it, it probably does look amazing but the total cost is going to be horrendious.

And while it's nice to hear all these features nvidia are flaunting it's totally pointless as we still don't know when these cards are going to come out.
People are buying ati 5xxx series cards not nvidia cards becuase the nvidia cards are still not out and the ati card are out.

[nibbler]

So rollo, your saying the Ati 5000 series beats fermi in terms of gaming performance?

From what I understand he was suggesting that fermi is a lot faster but will cost a lot more.

[MadduckUK]

From what I understand he was suggesting that fermi is a lot faster but will cost a lot more.

rollo talks, and yet all we hear is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2XO74fdsto

[Ulti]

rollo talks, and yet all we hear is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2XO74fdsto

I'm not a fan of spamming threads but that is win haha.

[MadduckUK]

I'm not a fan of spamming threads but that is win haha.

the thread itself is spam so concious is clear tbh

[Rollo]

So rollo, your saying the Ati 5000 series beats fermi in terms of gaming performance? But yet offers more 'extras' , or did i read this wrong?
That to me is a good idea because, i dont want to be able to do work on my gpu (whole point of a work station IMO) and my cpu is powerful enough for along time tbh so i can just concentrate keeping the gpu playing games well.

Now to wait for the 5850/70 to drop to £100 and ill blag 2 .

You read this wrong. Fermi will beat the 5000 series. My point was faster+ more features NVIDIA parts will drive down the price of ATi parts, as they won't be able to compete at the same price or anywhere near it.

People want things like the PhysX effects in Batman and Dark Void. (or even AA in Batman)

Let's say a GTX360 and HD5870 cost the same and perform pretty much the same. Which would you buy? The one with the 3d Vision, 3d Vision Surround, "Eye Finity", Physx, better multi GPU drivrs, and CUDA? Or the one with Eyefinity?

Tough choice, isn't it? ATi prices are going to dump, consumers willing to give up the extras will save.

Nostradamus Rollo has foreseen this.

[Pob255]

Let's say a GTX360 and HD5870 cost the same and perform pretty much the same. Which would you buy? The one with the 3d Vision, 3d Vision Surround, "Eye Finity", Physx, better multi GPU drivrs, and CUDA? Or the one with Eyefinity?

Tough choice, isn't it? ATi prices are going to dump, consumers willing to give up the extras will save.

Nostradamus Rollo has foreseen this.

Actually what they are doing is buying the one that's actually available and has been for the past couple of months.

So buy the time the nvidia cards odes come out it's going to be the choise of Shall I stick with the card I have or buy a whole new card, that performs the same, costs the same, but has a few added features?
Not to mention that to use some of these features you'd have to but New monitors as well which will cost 3 time that of the card . . .

[nibbler]

And the power draw of ati 5000 series is unlikely to be beaten IMO.

[computertechy]

is this guys for real?? or is he another nvidiot praising fermi without actualy seeing it....

just mindless spamming babble!

[Pob255]

Welcome to HEXUS computertechy

Rollo is our resident "NVIDIA Focus Group Member" as his sig clearly states.

As such he does indeed get access to previews of new hardware and the actual stuff before it's release as part ot nvidia's foucs group testing and such.
This does mean he's a step up from some nvidia fanboyz but at the same time it does put him squarly on nvidia's side.

[aidanjt]

As soon as TSMC fixes their broken fabrication process (or AMD wisely goes with a foundry which doesn't suck), supply will begin meeting demand, and prices will drop whether or not nV will ever manage to release Fermi. Then nV will be screwed, they'll wish they didn't introduce artificial scarcity in the mid/high range since last year.

And of course, where AMD launched with a £200 part (read, about affordable), nV will launch with a £500 part (read, unaffordable), and take the better part of a year to bring Fermi to the masses at sane prices.

nVidia have been riding off their logo for far too long now. And they've done well to self-sabotage it.

[computertechy]

Thanks pob255

I do understand. but surely being as professional as he states he could make a post about Fermi without bashing another company.

I'm just fed up with the flaming on every forum i join, i know u have to expect that but u would think he knew better.

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I am hoping that Nvidia can release competitive graphics cards in the sub £150 range. An HD5770 competitor with better performance and a similar price and power consumption would be great. I hope that Nvidia realises that not everyone is going to be spending over £150 on a graphics card.