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    First HD5830 review!

    More details here:

    http://vga.it168.com/a2010/0223/852/000000852552.shtml

    The card seems to be 10% to 20% slower than an HD5850 1GB,uses an HD5870 PCB and has similar power consumption to an HD5850 1GB.

    The fact that this card still uses a pair of PCI-E power connectors and an HD5870 PCB makes it distinctively underwhelming IMHO!!

    Hopefully ATI will release an HD5790 at some point.
    Last edited by CAT-THE-FIFTH; 24-02-2010 at 01:23 AM.

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    Re: First HD5830 review!

    Looking at the graphs I think I'm going to stick with my GTX 260 until at least Christmas time. The GPU-Z screenshot says it only has a 128-bit bus, and the bandwidth seems awfully low - down to it not being fully supported yet maybe ?

    Quote Originally Posted by CAT-THE-FIFTH View Post
    The fact that this card still uses a pair of PCI-E power connectors and an HD5870 PCB makes it distinctively underwhelming IMHO!!
    This ^^ as well.
    Last edited by Terbinator; 24-02-2010 at 01:49 AM.
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    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

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    Re: First HD5830 review!

    Quote Originally Posted by Terbinator View Post
    down to it not being fully supported yet maybe ?
    the 0MB of mem is a bit of a giveaway of that
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    Re: First HD5830 review!

    Not that I can understand alot but it seems to use the same power as the 5850. Overclock from 800/1000 to 951/1250 seems pretty good. With the ram being rated at 1250 makes it a free OC! All this on that decidadly dodgy looking XFX cooler.

    IMO the price is going to be the decider. It will beat the GTX275 on price and does better on performance/power. Not ground breaking though as previously stated.

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    Re: First HD5830 review!

    Shame the card has not been compared directly to a 5770 to see what advantage it has over the card below it.

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    Re: First HD5830 review!

    Is this effectively where all the failed 5870s end up then?

    Whatever it is, I'm finding it pretty uninspiring.

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    Re: First HD5830 review!

    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    Is this effectively where all the failed 5870s end up then?

    Whatever it is, I'm finding it pretty uninspiring.
    Looks exactly the way it is.

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    Re: First HD5830 review!

    higher power consumption than the 5850 (175w vs 155w for 5850) I dont think so

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    Re: First HD5830 review!

    According to that review, this card is barely better than the GTX 260 I already have..

    Nothing for me to upgrade to now, until the HD 5850 comes down to around £150 (xmas?)..

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    Re: First HD5830 review!

    Quote Originally Posted by snootyjim View Post
    Is this effectively where all the failed 5870s end up then?

    Whatever it is, I'm finding it pretty uninspiring.
    Why is this a surprise to anyone??
    The 5850 is basically the same gpu as the 5870 with some clusters masked off.

    If the price and performance is in between the 5850 and 5770, did people think it was going to out perform the 5870 and yet cost half the price?

    The thing that has got me down is if it has only 16 ROPs and 128bit memory.
    There was an interesting artical some place where a 5870 was underclocked to the level of the 5850 and they performed almost the same.
    Which goes to show that in most current games the it's the effects and not sheer polygon count that is becoming the key feature.

    Why I was hoping it was just more masked off clusters with full 32rops and 256bit memory that would then show the real truth as to how many streams are actually needed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Domestic_Ginger View Post
    All this on that decidadly dodgy looking XFX cooler.
    That's just a 5770 rev2 stockcooler on there.

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    Re: First HD5830 review!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pob255 View Post
    That's just a 5770 rev2 stockcooler on there.
    For a hotter card
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    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

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    Re: First HD5830 review!

    I think maybe the next "eye opener" will be a 5750 X2 or similar...

    if it's small enough it could be a kicker...

    I'm glad to see people taking power consumption so seriously now and though twin GPU's will increase it, if they throttle properly it might be a good card.

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    Re: First HD5830 review!

    Quote Originally Posted by Zak33 View Post
    I'm glad to see people taking power consumption so seriously now and though twin GPU's will increase it, if they throttle properly it might be a good card.
    I'm hoping we can move onto them Enermax 385W PSU's soon while maintaining the performance equivalent of a rig built around a 550W or so PSU.
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    Re: First HD5830 review!

    Also lower power generally = less heat

    And considering this looks like a binned 5870 gpu on a 5850 pcb with clocks between the 5870 and 5850 I'm not surprised it uses more power, probably got some iffy transistors in there which require higher voltage to remain stable.

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    Re: First HD5830 review!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pob255 View Post
    Also lower power generally = less heat

    And considering this looks like a binned 5870 gpu on a HD5870 pcb with clocks between the 5870 and 5850 I'm not surprised it uses more power, probably got some iffy transistors in there which require higher voltage to remain stable.
    Corrected for you!!

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    Re: First HD5830 review!

    I'm going to wait and see if there is a 5 series refresh in response to the GTX480. Hoping to buy a replacement for my 9600gt in the ensuing price wars which performs like a 5770 for ~£80.

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