Nvidia GTX460!

Seems Nvidia will be releasing a new midrange graphics card in June:

http://en.expreview.com/2010/04/24/g...-1st/7084.html

It will be interesting to see how this card performs.

i've been waiting for this as an upgrade from my 9600 gt, price hopefully under 200 (hopelessly optimistic)

Hmm, with that many stream processors it's still going to be a power hungry card :/

TBH if I wanted to buy nVidia (say for a Linux workstation) I'd be more inclined to go with a 275 or something and give the 4x0 series a skip, maybe if a 4x5 revision came about, or, more likely, a reasonably priced 5x0 series with much better thermals and more matured drivers it'd be more attractive.

I think we're more than likely to get a 4x5 revision - there've been rumours about a respin in the autumn already, and if they can keep the same design but make the technical tweaks that AMD did to ensure the slightly shoddy 40nm process at TSMC doesn't cripple their GPUs, then we should see a 40nm respun GTX485 that can run all 512 shaders at nearer 1600MHz within, if not significantly below, the current TDP.

The problem with any GTX460 is that it looks like it'll be binned GF100 GPUs rather than a separate core, which will mean the TDP will remain relatively high due to being an absolutely *huge* die. Interesting to note, however, that this rumour matches my speculation in the earlier GTX460 thread, so my comments on relative performance there will stand - it will be slower than a 5850, and I don't see how they can possible sell it cheaper without making a significant loss...

it needs to be cheap, but i dont think its going to happen

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Originally Posted by scaryjim

<stuff snipped> - it will be slower than a 5850, and I don't see how they can possible sell it cheaper without making a significant loss...

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But the point is that these are otherwise junk silicon heading for the skip. If they can sell them for *any* money, then that recovers some of the cost of the wafer.

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Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix

But the point is that these are otherwise junk silicon heading for the skip. If they can sell them for *any* money, then that recovers some of the cost of the wafer.

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Unless the cost of the card/other chips/packaging/support etc. is greater than the write-off cost of the chip altogether.

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Originally Posted by GheeTsar

Unless the cost of the card/other chips/packaging/support etc. is greater than the write-off cost of the chip altogether.

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They can play with the voltages and timings etc until they get something that people will think is worth buying, actually writing off such an expensive lump of silicon seems extreme. Even if they only break even, i expect nvidia would think that is better than handing a sale to AMD.

I notice from the expreview link that they have turned off 1/4 of the original 512 shaders in this chip and yet have turned off 1/3 of the data bus width. I guess they *really* wanted to save money on those memory chips.

Could this be the 460 - or a 450? Link

It mentions being a new architecture rather than simply a cut down gf100.

Sounds more likely to be a GTS450 if it's different silicon. There's so many shaders in a GF100 core that it wouldn't make a lot of sense to have a completely different silicon until you get down to about half the shader, like AMD have done with the 5000 series. Of course, a 256 shader GTS450 would still be a pretty nippy card...