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    I have a 300w powersupply and i play cod4 on lowest settings, now my question is what is the best gaming oriented graphics card i can use?
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    Re: Graphics help

    Any budget to work within?

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    Re: Graphics help

    up to 100 + shipping
    i was thinking of a 9400 gt, if its compatable, but if there is a better card that will work with my computer i will go with the better card

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    Re: Graphics help

    Given you're working to low power requirementments, something along the lines of the 4770 or 5750 should suit your needs. Although the 4770 will be cheaper and offer similar performance to the 5750, you'll be lucky to source one as it's End Of Line (no longer produced / stocked)

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/512MB...-DVI-I-HDMI-DP

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190258

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/XFX-ATI-Radeon...eo_TV_Cards_TW

    The 5750 is DX11 compatible, has slightly better performance (in the region of 5% - nothing you'd really notice though), and is slightly lower power when idle (i.e. at desktop it uses less power)

    TBH I'd probably go for the 4770 on Ebay @£68 delivered.

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    Re: Graphics help

    Quote Originally Posted by cptwhite_uk View Post
    Given you're working to low power requirementments, something along the lines of the 4770 or 5750 should suit your needs. Although the 4770 will be cheaper and offer similar performance to the 5750, you'll be lucky to source one as it's End Of Line (no longer produced / stocked)

    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/512MB...-DVI-I-HDMI-DP

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/190258

    http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/XFX-ATI-Radeon...eo_TV_Cards_TW

    The 5750 is DX11 compatible, has slightly better performance (in the region of 5% - nothing you'd really notice though), and is slightly lower power when idle (i.e. at desktop it uses less power)

    TBH I'd probably go for the 4770 on Ebay @£68 delivered.
    Not sure I would want to use that with the OP's 300W PSU.

    Even the 5670 has an official power requirement of a 400W PSU.

    Nvidia say the GT240 can use a 300W PSU:

    http://www.nvidia.com/object/product...gt_240_us.html

    That takes you from the 8 shaders of the 8300gs to 96 shaders, so you should see a huge difference and well within budget.

    Note that most of the cheap ones have a big heatsink that takes up the slot next to the graphics card, make sure you have space for it in your case. This is the sort of thing I mean:

    http://www.ebuyer.com/product/179746

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    Re: Graphics help

    Or buy a new powersupply and a graphics card. GPU - £60 + PSU - £30. This means you'll be able to run any of the above suggested cards a bit more comfortably.

    If not I'd say any of the above suggestions

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    Re: Graphics help

    I agree with getting a corsair 400w and then buy a 5750,but i think it might get bottleneck from the low clocked core 2 duo 2.33ghz.

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    Re: Graphics help

    Definitely go for the Corsair PSU as suggested.
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    for all intents it seems to be the same card minus some gays name on it and a shielded cover ? with OEM added to it - GoNz0.

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    Re: Graphics help

    Quote Originally Posted by DanceswithUnix View Post
    Not sure I would want to use that with the OP's 300W PSU.

    Even the 5670 has an official power requirement of a 400W PSU.

    Nvidia say the GT240 can use a 300W PSU:


    That takes you from the 8 shaders of the 8300gs to 96 shaders, so you should see a huge difference and well within budget.

    Note that most of the cheap ones have a big heatsink that takes up the slot next to the graphics card, make sure you have space for it in your case. This is the sort of thing I mean:
    so is the gt240 better than a 9400 gt?

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    Re: Graphics help

    The GT240 is about the equivalent to a 9600GT but with better power consumption and heat.
    Last edited by AdamAnubis; 31-08-2010 at 02:30 AM.

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    Re: Graphics help

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamAnubis View Post
    The GTS240 is about the equivalent to a 9600GT but with better power consumption and heat.
    so this would be able to run my cod4 at a reasonable graphic setting? lol right now im at 640x480 with every little "eye candy setting" set to off or low

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    Re: Graphics help

    Quote Originally Posted by helostrike View Post
    so this would be able to run my cod4 at a reasonable graphic setting? lol right now im at 640x480 with every little "eye candy setting" set to off or low
    oh and also im on nvidia website and it says that GTS 240 needs 450 watt but the GT 240 needs 300w which one are u talking about?

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    Re: Graphics help

    At 1680*1050 with settings on high you're looking at 50fps. Anything above 30 is good.

    The GT 240 sorry, just realised I added the S in by mistake. Sorry

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    Re: Graphics help

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamAnubis View Post
    At 1680*1050 with settings on high you're looking at 50fps. Anything above 30 is good.

    The GT 240 sorry, just realised I added the S in by mistake. Sorry
    ok thanks, im actually in panic as my 8300 gs went up after 3 years and if im gonna replace it im gonna get a good 1
    actually most games now are set to run at 60 smoothly, but it will run at 40 without the jittery feeling. So its the gt240 i shoiuld get?, where would u recommend getting this card from? through dell or straight from nvidia?

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    Quote Originally Posted by helostrike View Post
    ok thanks, im actually in panic as my 8300 gs went up after 3 years and if im gonna replace it im gonna get a good 1
    actually most games now are set to run at 60 smoothly, but it will run at 40 without the jittery feeling. So its the gt240 i shoiuld get?, where would u recommend getting this card from? through dell or straight from nvidia?
    i looked up on dell and it has this card
    http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...chassisid=8455
    is that similar or better than nividia's?

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    Re: Graphics help

    It has double the ram 1Gb as opposed to 512Mb, but other than that it's the same. The RAM isn't worth the extra money in the case of the GT240.

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